Yes, I just wanted to make a corollary to that. What I've heard a lot from first responders is that almost every service has access to their employee assistance program, EAP. I hear so many stories of people trying to reach out to their EAP counsellors, and they find it very frustrating, so they go only once or twice.
Similar to what Dr. Baillie is saying, many of these counsellors don't get it. They don't get trauma. They don't understand cumulative trauma. They don't understand trauma that's part of someone's work or duties.
They find it very helpful to speak with someone who really understands what that world is like and what the impact of cumulative trauma is.