Evidence of meeting #37 for Natural Resources in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sands.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Don Thompson  President, Oil Sands Developers Group
Lionel Lepine  Traditional Environmental Knowledge Coordinator, Industry Relations, Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation
Ezra Levant  As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Ian Potter  Chief Operating Officer, Alberta Innovates Technology Futures
Vivian Krause  As an Individual
Jessie Inman  Executive Director, Corporate Development, HTC Purenergy Inc.

December 7th, 2010 / 12:55 p.m.

As an Individual

Vivian Krause

A huge increase, yes.

The first comment I wanted to make was that the main reason I say that environmental activism isn't what it used to be is because if you look back over the last ten years, in the late 1990s the average grant might have been $50,000. You saw lots of grants for $10,000 or $12,000, or even less than $10,000. By the mid-1990s, you see half-a-million-dollar grants are not at all unusual. Now, it's not at all unusual to see million-dollar or multi-million-dollar grants in a single grant. So we've gone from five-digits to six-digits to seven-digit grants. That's what I see.

For instance, one foundation, the Tides Canada Foundation, in 2001 had assets of $1 million. Now they have assets of $33 million. How do they go from $1 million in assets to $33 million? You can do quite a bit with the earnings off $33 million.

To give you an example from the Hewlett Foundation, in 2004 they paid Tides Canada $70,000 to develop, and I quote, “a strategic plan to address oil and gas development in B.C.”. I'd like to know what was that strategic plan. Since then, in the last four years.... After $70,000 in 2004, then $250,000, then $1.5 million in 2007, the next year it went from $1.5 million to $3 million, and then the last two years $2 million, and this year $2.4 million.

So yes, we have seen a very, very steep increase in the funding.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Allen Conservative Tobique—Mactaquac, NB

Can you comment on one of your slides? It's the one that says $56 million U.S. paid to Tides Canada:

Since 2003 when Tides Canada got equivalency status in the U.S., Tides Canada can re-grant U.S. funds in the name of Tides Canada.

How does that process work on that regranting?

12:55 p.m.

As an Individual

Vivian Krause

My understanding, to the best of my knowledge, is that Tides Canada has essentially two entities. In Canada there are two registered charities; one is called the Tides Canada Foundation and one is called the Tides Canada Initiative Society. The Tides Canada Foundation has equivalency status in the U.S. They file tax returns with the IRS. So American charitable foundations can make grants to Tides Canada Foundation. Tides Canada Foundation then regrants a part of that money to itself, to the Tides Canada Initiative Society. Then, when Tides Canada Foundation makes grants in Canada, they're made in the name of Tides Canada. So you don't know, for instance, where the grants originated.

I think it's really important to look at what some of the grants were actually for. For instance, $700,000, and I quote, “to slow the expansion of tar sands production by stopping new infrastructure development”. I'd like to know.... For example, the water quality research that was done on the impact of the oil sands on the Athabasca River was done at the same university, funded by the same organization, Tides, published in the same journal, and publicized in the same journal as another set of research that has been used to thwart the salmon farming industry. It's important to know: Is that research funded as part and parcel of a demarketing campaign?

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

I'm sorry, Mr. Allen, you're out of time.

I'd like to thank all three of you for coming today. The information you've provided to the committee is very helpful indeed. Jessie Inman, Ian Potter, and Vivian Krause, thank you.

We're finished with our meeting for today.

The meeting is adjourned.