Evidence of meeting #74 for Natural Resources in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was question.

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MPs speaking

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Serge Dupont  Deputy Minister, Department of Natural Resources
Anil Arora  Assistant Deputy Minister, Science and Policy Integration, Department of Natural Resources

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

What? If it's not relevant, why is it there?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Joe Oliver Conservative Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

It's not relevant to that particular applicant. It's relevant to people who want to provide expertise. Different sections are relevant to different parts. That's why it's there.

The point is, let's say the farmer says this pipeline goes through his farm. That's it. Nothing more need be said. They provide their name and their phone number and address, and that does it because that suggests the person is directly affected.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

Can you tell me what OH-002-2013 is?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Gravelle, could I just ask you to say what department or what government agency that document is from?

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

It's a government document.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

From which...?

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

From Natural Resources.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

I appreciate your providing that information.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

Okay—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

David Anderson Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK

Mr. Chair, on a point of order, if Mr. Gravelle doesn't know what the document is, what is he doing asking other people if they have any clue what it is?

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

That's my point exactly. How can an ordinary Canadian—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

David Anderson Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK

Mr. Gravelle—

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

How can ordinary Canadians—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

No, no. Order.

4:25 p.m.

An hon. member

Point of order, Mr. Chair—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Gravelle—

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

—answer the question if nobody knows what it is?

4:25 p.m.

An hon. member

Point of order.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Gravelle, order, please. Mr. Anderson was speaking. He had a point of order.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

David Anderson Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK

He brings in part of the information and then starts asking riddles about it. The minister has clearly answered the question.

If he's asking a question about people's participation in the NEB hearings, the minister just answered that. If that's what he wanted to hear, he got the answer. He can certainly move on to his next question, but for him to bring part of a document in here and then expect everyone here to be familiar with it is ridiculous.

4:25 p.m.

An hon. member

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Thank you, Mr. Anderson.

On a point of order, Mr. Nicholls.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Jamie Nicholls NDP Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Mr. Chair, I find it very rich. You are an MP in the House who is defending freedom of speech for MPs in the House, and yet time after time it appears that you're trying to shut down our side from asking our questions. I find it very disturbing. I'm wondering, is it only anti-choice Conservative MPs who you want to have freedom of speech or is it—

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Nicholls, you're certainly not on topic here, and you know that simply isn't the case. I'm trying to make this committee.... A committee is only going to function properly if the witnesses are treated with respect and if they're allowed to give a reasonable answer to the question. If they're given a detailed multi-part question, you can expect that it's going to take a while for an answer. So let's have this committee function as it has been—very well, in the past—and when you ask a question, allow the minister to answer. In this case, he's the witness for the next couple of minutes still, and after that we'll suspend and get on to the next group of witnesses.

Mr. Gravelle, go ahead, please.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

So, Minister, can you tell me what appendix III is?