If I may start, first of all, in the spirit of the topic of the committee, I'm going to leave aside the Eagle Spirit pipeline specifics and answer your question directly. Should indigenous peoples be consulted in the creation and development of policy as well as when they put shovels in the ground? Absolutely.
I would encourage the committee to consider indigenous communities as an operator would consider their joint venture partner. Indigenous communities need to have the same rights, the same level of opinion and the same engagement as, for example, Shell would have with BP if they were partnering on an asset in the North Sea. Those two joint venture partners have equal voices when it comes to canvassing the government in developing policy and changing the existing policies. Absolutely. It's only at that point that you will begin to build trust with the indigenous communities.
Thank you.