This is a pilot plant, so it's being built to help develop markets and products so that we can identify which ones are most profitable. For R and D, I guess there is no return. The return comes from development of those full-scale plants later on.
That's why we are deeply involved in making sure that as the research.... A big portion of the research that's done for the R and D is for the pilot plant and optimizing the process so that when you build a full-scale plant you can build it at a cost-competitive price. But there is also a big portion that uses what comes out of that process and further refines or modifies it in order to develop higher-end products where you can make a bigger profit. The intent is that there is a return in jobs, mostly, and also transformation of the industry so that facilities that use.... This technology uses the same type of technology that's used to make newsprint. We know that demand for newsprint is going down, so the intent is to use the assets that are there to manufacture higher-grade products, which will allow these plants to continue operating and save jobs in the area, but also make profitable economic benefits from the area.