Natural Resources Committee on Dec. 15th, 2021

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

We have a subamendment that we will then vote on. Is everybody in favour of including supplementary estimates (B) to the amendment that's being put forward? It would also include the supplementary (C)s, if any, and the mains.

[Michelle Rempel, Conservative, Calgary Nose Hill, AB]

Mr. Chair, my understanding is that Ms. Dabrusin's motion takes out the deadline of February 28.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

That's right.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

It depends on the minister's schedule, so we can't order that anyway.

[Michelle Rempel, Conservative, Calgary Nose Hill, AB]

You're never going to get him.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

We'll get him.

[Michelle Rempel, Conservative, Calgary Nose Hill, AB]

I would put it in there so that we can shame them when he doesn't come.

[James Maloney, Liberal, Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON]

He will come.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

The subamendment we have is for the tail end of this, which is on the subject matter of the supplementary estimates (B), (C), if any, and mains. That's the subamendment that we're discussing now. Are we able to call the question, and if we agree, then the amended one comes back that takes out “prior to February 28th”, and we'll be debating or discussing that next.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

We'll vote on this, and if my colleague is concerned about losing the “February 28th”...but we'll vote on it. I'm ready to vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

We'll call the vote on the subamendment, which includes supplementary estimates (B), supplementary estimates (C), if any, and the main estimates.

(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

Now we go to the motion as put forward with the amendment, removing “prior to February 28th, 2022” in the second bullet, but with the addition that was just carried.

Ms. Dabrusin

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Can you please reread that to me?

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

It's amending the second bullet which will then read: “That the Minister of Natural Resources be invited to appear before the committee for no fewer than two hours on the subject matter of supplementary estimates (B), supplementary estimates (C), if any, and the main estimates”.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

We'll proceed to the vote.

(Amendment as amended negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

We'll now vote on the motion which retains the “prior to February 28th, 2022”, and also contains the supplementary estimates (B), supplementary (C)s, if any, and mains.

Ms. Jones.

[Yvonne Jones, Liberal, Labrador, NL]

Is this the original motion without the amendment? I just need some clarification, please.

[The Clerk]

We are voting on the main motion as amended.

[Eric Melillo, Conservative, Kenora, ON]

I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. Could you maybe read the section again? There's some confusion there. I don't believe the amendment passed. We are voting on the main motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

The subamendment passed and the amendment did not pass.

The motion that we have is as presented except the second bullet retains the “prior to February 28th, 2022” and then the subamendment that was carried includes supplementary estimates (B), supplementary estimates (C) if any, and mains. That's the new package. Otherwise, it's as presented.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I hope everybody knows that a camel was a racehorse that was designed by committee. We're just having to go through what we added to the camel's structure to make sure we're ready to vote.

[James Maloney, Liberal, Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON]

Did your mother tell you that, too?

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

No. My sainted mother told me that if I was going to get a penalty, I might as well draw blood.

[Michelle Rempel, Conservative, Calgary Nose Hill, AB]

Do we have the same mother? Honestly, that's sage advice.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

My mother goes to mass every day and takes no prisoners.