Evidence of meeting #3 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Hilary Jane Powell
Aaron Cosbey  Senior Associate, International Institute for Sustainable Development
Jan Gorski  Director, Oil and Gas, The Pembina Institute
Patrick Kitchin  Director, Regulatory and Environmental Sustainability, Whitecap Resources Inc.
Chris Severson-Baker  Regional Director, Alberta, The Pembina Institute

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Yes, but with all due respect, he said that based on your promises. The environment commissioner said that we don't need any more promises and targets; we need you to meet them. This report said that you failed.

We're sticking to the environment commissioner's report. If you want to bring someone else's report, we'll bring those witnesses. He said you failed and production is increasing. Why are you not taking responsibility for this?

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jonathan Wilkinson Liberal North Vancouver, BC

In the context of the emissions reduction report, the emissions have gone down, and they've gone down significantly. If, in fact, the commissioner is looking at a project that a company may want to do 100 miles away from the project to reduce emissions, that's a very different thing.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

He didn't say these were 100 miles away. He said this is the money that you gave them.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jonathan Wilkinson Liberal North Vancouver, BC

The focus—

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

You're making this up; stay focused on the report.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

Sorry, I'll interrupt. We are at the end of our time there.

As I said, it makes it hard for the interpreters when we have more than one conversation.

We're at the end of the two and a half minutes, so we're going to wrap this panel up, unfortunately.

Mr. Maguire, I know you said you had a quick question, but we have two panellists who—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

It's for the minister and related to Brandon. I'm from Brandon, so I thought I'd do a quick one.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

I know he needs to go, and we do have the next panellists ready to go—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

I'll let him go.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

On a point of order, Chair, we still have two minutes left.

Give it to Mr. Maguire.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

It's a 10-second question and the minister will be here. He's not going anywhere.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

What time is it?

I have 4:29.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

I'll be 30 seconds, and he can answer me in 30 seconds.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

Okay, you have 30 seconds because you're from Brandon and the Brandon mayor had some good things to say.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister.

Mr. Chrest was right, and I would agree with him. If there were jobs coming out of these things, jobs are always good. I wonder if you could provide me with the numbers of the retention of jobs or the creation of new ones in the Brandon project, so I can report that back to the mayor.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jonathan Wilkinson Liberal North Vancouver, BC

As I said earlier, I would be very happy to provide you with those. We are collecting them now in the aftermath of the implementation of the project. We will be very happy to sit down to go through that with you once we have the numbers.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Oh, you don't have them now.

That's fine. Thank you.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

Excellent. Thank you, Mr. Maguire. I think you're up for our next round, so we'll hear more from you.

Minister and officials—Ms. Johnson, Ms. Scharf and Mr. Layer—thank you for joining us for the panel with the minister this afternoon. If you want to jump off the line, we're going to bring in the next panel.

I understand there may be a couple of people who need to have a quick mike check. I'm looking at our clerk to make sure. If that all got sorted out in the back room, we may be able to go right into the panel.

4:30 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Hilary Jane Powell

We will do a very quick sound check with Mr. Cosbey and Mr. Gorski to make sure that works, and then we can start.

Thank you.

4:30 p.m.

Aaron Cosbey Senior Associate, International Institute for Sustainable Development

Can you hear me all right?

4:30 p.m.

The Clerk

Hello, Mr. Cosbey. We'll just do a quick sound check. Maybe you can talk about the weather. We'll make sure our interpreters can hear you.

4:30 p.m.

Senior Associate, International Institute for Sustainable Development

Aaron Cosbey

I'm coming to you from sunny, beautiful British Columbia, halfway between Calgary and Vancouver, on this fine winter day.

4:30 p.m.

The Clerk

Thank you very much.

Now, we'll just do a very quick one for Jan Gorski, and then we'll go on.

Hello, Jan. Could you kindly say a few words about the weather as well?

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John Aldag

We also like to get our guests to sing us a small song.