Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the witnesses for being here today.
I want to start with a couple of different things.
I'm glad you mentioned the two billion trees. It's never really been discussed that it's in addition to what is already done. Many people don't understand that it takes about two and a half years for the provinces to put in two billion trees, and they're at about 800 million per year at this particular point in time. Yes, it's a target, but I also think we should realize that these partners are already stretched. Nevertheless, they have the capability, and if we can get the seeds to them, they will be able to move forward with it. I'm glad you mentioned that, because I think that's important for folks to understand.
My other thought is that one of the aspects of the massive forest area losses right now are that we have two choices. Either we can emphasize planting there or we can let nature do its own thing. Now that we have the forest floor burnt off and all of this extra fuel gone, we can make sure it will do what it's supposed to do, which is what has happened for tens of thousands of years. Hopefully, we can sort that part out.
Another thing I would like to talk about is that you said that since 1992, we haven't done very much on this. Twenty-three of those years have been under a Liberal government, but we see that there are issues.
One thing you also talked about has to do with carbon pricing.
In a 2022 report, when you compare a bunch of countries on U.S. dollars per tonne for carbon, for all of the western hemisphere and counting China, the costs for Canada are five to 11 times that of these individual countries. If we take a look at Argentina, it's $5 per tonne, compared to our $40 at that time. Mexico is $3.7. Colombia and Chile are $5 in each case. China is between $8 and $9—I have a little trouble figuring out what that is.
We have this massive tax for us here in Canada. How do our results compare to these other countries that I mentioned when we're looking at five to 11 times more that we pay, and that's when we look at $40 U.S. per tonne as the number?