Evidence of meeting #23 for Official Languages in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was tests.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Christine Holke
Lucie Lecomte  Committee Researcher
David Manicom  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Corinne Prince-St-Amand  Director General, Integration and Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Stefanie Beck  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Donald Cochrane  Senior Director, International Region, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

10:40 a.m.

Director General, Integration and Foreign Credentials Referral Office, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Corinne Prince-St-Amand

As far as hosting in francophone communities outside Quebec is concerned, the department has been subsidizing the francophone immigration networks, commonly known as RIFs, for several years. We subsidize 13 networks located in the different provinces and territories other than Quebec, except Nunavut. It's a partnership between the communities, the employers, the provincial governments and the federal government. All the community members work closely to give a good welcome to the francophones who settle in those communities.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Jean Rioux Liberal Saint-Jean, QC

Many thanks for answering my questions so quickly.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Many thanks for answering so quickly.

The last person to intervene is Mr. Samson, and he has the floor.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Thank you, Chair.

Ladies, gentlemen, if you have the time to answer, all the better. Otherwise, you can add the information to your report, which will be enhanced with all kinds of data.

I want to thank you. It's not easy to do what you're doing here today. Our group is usually very nice, but there are times when we are very stimulated by the questions and subjects being addressed.

I'd like to see the report. I see that this great committee has been devoting more than an hour to discussing francophone immigration to regions other than Quebec. I expect results.

In your report, could you talk about the objectives that were established in the last three or five years, and about the objectives fixed today? What adjustments are you making? You said you've only achieved 1.5%, but that there's still time until 2018. What will the new objectives for the coming two years be? For example, you can say that there were five objectives before, but seven now, for the next two years. I would certainly like to see that.

There's a second thing I'd like to see in the report, and you can all answer my question.

On what principles is the Government of Canada's francophone immigration policy based with a view to respecting the demographic weight of the official language communities? Do you put more emphasis on the policy depending on the needs?

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Thank you, Mr. Samson.

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

I have one last question.

What tools does the government use to monitor progress?

Thank you.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Thank you, Mr. Samson.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Stefanie Beck

I might have missed something with all these questions.

If I remember correctly, our objectives are 4% for 2018, and 4.4% for economic immigration.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

I am not talking about the objectives, but about the strategies to achieve them.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Stefanie Beck

Understood.

There's a whole series of things in that regard. There's what is stated in the roadmap. There are consultations with a view to the action plan that will follow the roadmap. We are spending money each year to increase immigration.

Above all, we are asking ourselves how we will go about getting more people to come not only to Canada generally, but also to francophone minority communities. It does not depend on us alone. I know you're studying francophone immigration, but our federal colleagues, the provinces, the territories, and especially the municipalities and communities, need to make their contribution. We can't create jobs for these people, or find them family, schools, medical services, and other such things that will retain them in those places.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

It's not your responsibility.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Stefanie Beck

No, but—

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Don't worry about that.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Stefanie Beck

We, too—

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Are involved in attracting people.

10:45 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Stefanie Beck

We're as passionate as you are about this question. We are working with the communities, and are trying to give them as much money as possible to increase their capacity to welcome these immigrants—to attract them and retain them.

It's not easy. You also have quite a job ahead of you.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Thank you.

We can complete this discussion at another time.

Mr. Choquette has asked to say a few words.

10:45 a.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Since the question of French tests has elicited a lot of interest among us today, I will take advantage of the opportunity to give the clerk the report of the Commissioner of Official Languages on French tests and on the departments non-compliance with the Official Languages Act.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

Thank you, Mr. Choquette.

Mr. Généreux, you have the floor.

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Thank you, Chair.

The witnesses are responsible for putting policies in place. After the committee hears all the other people, it might be interesting to have these witnesses back. They will inevitably keep each other apprised of what happens in the committee over the coming weeks. It would be interesting, later on, to share the concerns or possibilities that the other witnesses will have shared with us.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Denis Paradis

We are counting on your being available, of course.

In closing, I'd like to thank you very much for helping the committee in its deliberations today.

This meeting is adjourned.