Evidence of meeting #24 for Official Languages in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funding.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Nancy Vohl
Sheila Risbud  President, Association canadienne-française de l'Alberta
Alexandre Cédric Doucet  President, Société de l'Acadie du Nouveau-Brunswick

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

You did not answer my question, but I will gladly work with you to introduce legislation.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you, Minister. You can count on my support.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Thank you both.

The last speaker is Mr. Duguid, who has five minutes.

Monsieur Duguid, the floor is yours.

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Liberal

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Welcome, Minister. It's great to have you with us.

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

It's good to see you.

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Liberal

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

Minister, we have two Manitobans in the committee today, Mr. Mazier and myself. As you know, we have a vibrant francophone community in Manitoba. You'll remember that because I took you to École Noël-Ritchot—

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

I know.

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Liberal

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

—a French school, K to eight, where the students spoke beautiful French and where we were opening a French child care centre.

Minister, French is declining in the west. We know there's a shortage of both French teachers and French immersion teachers, with the demand [Technical difficulty-Editor] really growing. We have evidence—my daughter, for one—that even though they've been through French immersion, they're losing their French because they don't have the opportunity to use it. I'm wondering how your reform document will address these and other pressing issues.

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

Thank you, dear colleague.

Thank you for your advocacy on this file. I think we can definitely count you as an ally.

Obviously, we want to make sure that we get rid of waiting lists when it comes to French immersion. Too many parents are putting their kids on waiting lists across the country, and that's unfortunate. Every time we lose a child who can't go to French immersion, we lose a citizen who can become bilingual.

One of the reasons for that is definitely the lack of French teachers. We want to do two things. First and foremost is working with provinces and territories to recognize diplomas, and particularly French teachers with diplomas. That's the first one.

The second one is working with the Minister of Immigration to create a new immigration pathway to be able to provide permanent residency to French educators coming from around the world who want to offer their knowledge and expertise to our kids. I think that will be welcomed by our colleagues across the country.

I had the chance to talk to the Manitoba ministers of education and francophone affairs yesterday; Mrs. Squires is one of them. They particularly saw that as good news for Manitoba. I think we can all work in the right direction to make sure we can offer more French teachers to our French immersion system, to French second language but also to our French schooling system itself—the French education system, which is the system for the minority in Manitoba and across the west.

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Liberal

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

I look forward to working with you on those improvements, Minister.

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

Do at least say “hi” to Franco-Manitobans for me.

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Liberal

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

I sure will. Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Thank you.

We'll stop here. We have a minute and a half left.

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

May I thank my colleagues?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Please do so.

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

Thank you.

It is my pleasure to...

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Liberal

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

Mr. Chair, I know that Marie-France [Technical difficulty—Editor] opportunity earlier so perhaps I could give her that opportunity. No?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Your caucus has one minute and twenty seconds.

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

I can continue the discussion, colleagues.

Mrs. Marie-France Lalonde, my parliamentary secretary, will certainly be able to follow up with all of you as well if you have any questions.

Just so you know, our goal [Technical difficulty—Editor] their point of view. I've already talked to seven of the thirteen provinces and territories. Finally...

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Excuse me, Mr. Beaulieu would like to speak.

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Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

I don't know if the minister will agree, but I was wondering if the two opposition parties could also have a say, as in a third round.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

I don't think that's possible.

We have witnesses for the second hour of the meeting. One of the things we need to do is test for sound quality.

The time that was allotted for this meeting hour is over.

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Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

How is it that everyone has had three turns to speak but us?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Emmanuel Dubourg

Mr. Beaulieu, these are the rules of the Board of Internal Economy. This is the speaking order that is followed for this meeting hour, as usual.

Madam Minister, you have the floor for the remaining 30 seconds.

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Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

As you know, we are in a minority government. In order to pass an official languages bill, we're going to have to work together. I look forward to working with you. We all know that this is legislation that will have a huge impact on the future of our young francophones and francophiles across the country.

We also need to craft it in a way that maintains a balance, that protects the rights of English Canadians to have access to French-language instruction. We also need to ensure that English speakers in Quebec have access to their institutions. We must think about our francophone minority communities and ensure that they are able, in one generation, two generations and three generations, to speak French. Finally, we must think about French-speaking Quebeckers who are also concerned about the future of their language.