Evidence of meeting #1 for Pay Equity in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Julie Lalande Prud'homme
Tonina Simeone  Committee Researcher

5:55 p.m.

Tonina Simeone Committee Researcher

The pay equity task force is quite big. Translation has its own service-level guidelines, and we are bound by that as well.

We could certainly provide something that the committee might find useful by early next week, but because of the translation guidelines, I think it would be very difficult for us to research it, write it, and get it into translation in a format that's useful for the committee.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

Mr. Albas.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Thank you.

The point I was going to raise is that it does put a lot of.... I am happy to get started on this as well, but I think we also have to plan out our work.

Which would give the analysts enough time to be able to put together what the member opposite has asked for, next Monday or Wednesday?

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

It will be a constituency week next week.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

If they could give it to us, we could read it.

6 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Tonina Simeone

I think it would give the analysts some time to read it, to write it, and to get something to the committee. Absolutely, by next week we could have something the committee can digest, but the day after tomorrow would be a bit of a challenge for us.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

I have Mr. Albas next.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I appreciate the clarification from the analysts, because at the end of the day we are only as good as the information we have.

My simple suggestion would be that perhaps we should not meet on Wednesday but meet on the next available date. I am more than happy to suggest that the chair be able to pick that, whether it be the Monday or the Wednesday we return after talking with the clerk and analysts. I appreciate the contribution by the member.

6 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

I used to work in a library. It was my very first job, so I know it does take some time, and I am very open.

Perhaps I could withdraw my motion, Madam Chair, and maybe put a new one.

Maybe this is a point of order. Do we need a motion to ask our library analysts to give us a report and a summary? Perhaps this is just a discussion.

Madam Chair, I think we should just get a summary report and all the information, all the reports that have been out, as well as a summary of the opus 2004 task force report, which I do not plan on reading through, although I started reading through the recommendations and they're long enough.

I like the suggestion that we meet the first time we possibly can, which is probably the Monday when we get back from constituency week.

I'm fine with that.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

I am told that for a briefing note we do not need a motion, but if we were to set something for somebody to come to the next meeting, that would require a motion. If we want a minister, the librarians, or any witnesses to come, we would need a motion for that, but not for a briefing note.

Mr. Albas, go ahead.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Another consideration I would ask regarding the witnesses is that it be either the Monday we return as the time we can start submitting them, or perhaps the Wednesday after. I've no problem with the other parts of the motion. I don't even think that technically we need that other than to say let's give it to the chair to be able to put a motion, working with the clerk and our analysts, and we'll go from there.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

Ms. Benson.

March 7th, 2016 / 6 p.m.

NDP

Sheri Benson NDP Saskatoon West, SK

I like the idea that at our first meeting we have a chance to reflect on what's been done already. I support the idea of having a summary.

I'm wondering if another good way to kick it off would be to have the minister speak to the committee as a way to frame the government's view of this issue and the mandate letter. Those two pieces could be the agenda for our first meeting,

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

I'm getting information from the library that if for instance we wanted to have the authors of the 2004 report come in, we could entertain a motion and then invite them for the next meeting after the break. Is there any discussion on that?

Ms. Dzerowicz.

6 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Madam Chair, I have a question. I know there have been a series of reports since 2004. While it seems like yesterday, it was 12 years ago. I don't mind that. If there's another more recent one, I'm also open to that. So I'd like to put that on the table for all of us. It could be a lot of the same things.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

What I'm hearing would be an amendment to your motion that would then say we would bring whoever is available.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

If they're both available, I'm fine with that too, unless there's any disagreement.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

That was the motion I was going to make.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

We have an amended motion. If you could clarify exactly what that motion is, then everybody will be clear.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

It changed so much, but let me try.

I move that at our next meeting we have a presentation from the authors of the 2004 pay equity task force, and/or any of the authors who might be available from one of the more recent studies on pay equity.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

Is there any further discussion? Are there any objections to the motion?

(Motion agreed to)

Before we adjourn, is there any other business that the committee wishes to discuss?

Regarding the next meeting, what I heard was that after the constituency week, the chair and the clerk will see the first available time for our meeting. Is that correct?

Mr. Albas.

6:05 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Since we do have a subcommittee, perhaps if they want to have a discussion before then when we could ratify our work plan, that would be helpful. I'm going to leave it to you, Madam Chair, and the subcommittee to determine that.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

Okay, and that doesn't require a motion.

Ms. Benson.

6:05 p.m.

NDP

Sheri Benson NDP Saskatoon West, SK

We should make this in the form of a motion, and I'm going to try to do that. I would like to make a motion that we invite the Minister of Status of Women to present to the committee as soon as she is available

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anita Vandenbeld

I hear a motion to invite the Minister of Status of Women to come before the committee, depending on her availability. Is there any discussion on Ms. Benson's motion?

Ms. Gladu.