Evidence of meeting #2 for Subcommittee on Private Members' Business in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was acts.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Alexandre Lavoie  Committee Researcher

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

This is meeting number two of the Subcommittee on Private Members' Business of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs on Tuesday, February 11, in regard to the determination of non-votable items pursuant to Standing Order 91.1(1).

Let's go through this.

The first one is Motion No. 485.

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Alexandre Lavoie Committee Researcher

The motion proposes measures to measure the impact of the use of international tax havens and tax evasion on federal government revenues.

The motion does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper as an item of government business.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

Does anybody have any concerns?

Go ahead. Thank you.

The second one is Bill C-208.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill amends the Supreme Court Act to require that Supreme Court of Canada judges understand English and French at the time of their appointment.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted down by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay.

The third one is Bill C-442.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill requires the Minister of Health to develop a national Lyme disease strategy in collaboration with his or her provincial and territorial counterparts.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

Carry on.

Next is Bill C-565.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill amends the National Capital Act to establish the boundaries of Gatineau Park and prohibit the sale of federal real property within these boundaries.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted down by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Is everybody satisfied with that? Yes? Thank you.

Bill C-555 is next.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill requires the federal government to amend the marine mammal regulations to increase the distance that a person must maintain from another person who is fishing for seal, except under the authority of a seal fishery observation licence.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently in the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Is everybody satisfied? Okay.

Next is Bill C-567.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill amends the Access to Information Act to give the Information Commissioner of Canada the power to order government institutions to release documents requested under the act.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay?

Now we have Motion No. 455.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The motion recommends that municipalities use a nationally standardized methodology in carrying out homeless counts.

This motion does concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. I want to point out to the committee, however, that a motion only expresses the views of the House and does not have any legal implications. Generally, the House has the capacity to consider any matter and express its view on it.

Otherwise, the motion does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay?

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Sorry, could you...? This is M-455, right?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Yes.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

What were your first comments—sorry—about not concerning questions that are outside federal jurisdiction?

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

This motion is making a recommendation directed to municipalities, which technically would fall under provincial jurisdiction. However, the House usually has considered or discussed those questions, and expressed views on any matters, regardless of whether they're provincial or federal.

Because a motion does not have legal implications, there are no rules that—

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Right; whereas if it was a bill, there'd be a problem.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

That could be a problem with a bill, yes.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Right. Okay.

Thanks.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

We'll now go to Bill C-560.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill amends the Divorce Act to instruct judges to order equal parenting when making a parenting order unless it is established that a different allocation would be in the best interests of the child.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

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NDP

Philip Toone NDP Gaspésie—Îles-de-la-Madeleine, QC

Mr. Chair, I have a few questions for Mr. Lavoie.

If Bill C-560 is passed, will it have an impact on all the provinces with their own family law? I assume that it would have an impact on the provincial legislative framework.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

If a couple is married, the federal legislation on divorce applies. If a couple is not married, provincial laws apply when it comes to child custody. So the situation would be different for a married couple going through a divorce and an unmarried couple going through a separation.

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NDP

Philip Toone NDP Gaspésie—Îles-de-la-Madeleine, QC

Will the bill have an impact on married couples with children? Will it have an impact on the provincial legislative framework?

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

No, they operate alongside one another.

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NDP

Philip Toone NDP Gaspésie—Îles-de-la-Madeleine, QC

The Civil Code of Quebec contains provisions that can have an impact on alimony and child support. I assume that this legislative framework would have an impact on child custody. Is that right?

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

In the case of a divorce, alimony and child support are governed by the federal legislation. I know that, in Quebec, a special system is in line with the federal legislation when it comes to divorce. Consequently, for both married and unmarried couples, the scale for setting alimony and child support could be similar. Of course, if the bill is passed, that would be evenly shared. I assume that the alimony and child support amounts paid by both types of couples would be affected, since those amounts are also based on the parents' custody time.

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NDP

Philip Toone NDP Gaspésie—Îles-de-la-Madeleine, QC

Okay, thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay.

We'll now go to Bill C-570.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill amends the Criminal Code to establish mandatory minimum sentences for sexual assaults that fall within the definition of rape and provide that sentences for such offences must be served consecutively to any other punishment arising out of the same event or series of events.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper as an item of government business.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

So there are not minimum sentences for those offences that have already been voted on by the House in previous sessions.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

Not that I found.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

All right. I mean, I haven't looked at the Criminal Code to see. I just assumed there would be some minimum sentences for those kinds of offences.

But if you've looked, and you haven't found any—

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

Any that have been voted on during the current session.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

No, previous. It says, “in the current session of Parliament, or as ones preceding them in the order of precedence”.

I guess what I'm saying is that if there—

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

I think when they refer to the preceding, it's the preceding motions that are already before Parliament or that have been considered by Parliament, but it's always within the current session.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Can it be dealt with at committee? Okay.

We're on Bill C-539.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill requires the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food, in consultation with his or her provincial counterparts, to establish a pan-Canadian strategy to encourage Canadian consumers to buy locally produced food, and the Minister of Public Works and Government Services to develop a procurement policy to encourage government institutions to buy those foods.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper as an item of government business.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Can I ask a question? The sale of goods is under provincial jurisdiction. I would support this bill—it's not an issue of whether I'd support it or not—but I've never understood why somebody would bring a bill rather than a motion. This is a bill as opposed to a motion, and it does affect the sale of goods. If it is adopted, it would be more of a statement, I suppose, a principle or a value that the government would have in promoting the sale of food locally. Does it matter?

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

In this case, the bill requires the government to take some actions. Because it's a bill, then it's not only the view of the House or the view of Parliament. It's really a requirement that the government has to undertake such actions.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

But it wouldn't impede the jurisdiction of the provinces, which have jurisdiction over the sale of goods. It's just promoting and it's nothing more than that.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

That's right. In that case, it requires the government to do something with the province, so if the strategy that is developed requires a change in provincial-jurisdiction legislation, then provincial governments would have to be on-board.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

Next is Bill C-486.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill requires Canadian businesses to exercise due diligence to ensure the activities in the Great Lakes regions of Africa do not benefit armed rebel organizations, criminal entities, or public or private security forces engaged in illegal activities or serious human rights abuses.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay.

On Motion No. 489.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The motion asks the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to consider the advisability of instituting a single preferential ballot for the election of the Speaker.

The motion does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper as an item of government business.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay.

We're on Bill C-571.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill amends the Meat Inspection Act and the Safe Food for Canadians Act to prohibit with some exceptions the interprovincial shipping or the importing or exporting of horses for slaughter for human consumption or the production of meat products for human consumption.

The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay.

On Motion No. 456.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The motion asks the federal government to establish a pan-Canadian palliative and end-of-life care strategy by working with the provinces and territories.

The motion does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Is everyone satisfied?

Thank you.

We're on Bill C-568.

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Committee Researcher

Alexandre Lavoie

The bill requires the Governor in Council to make regulations under the Department of Veterans Affairs Act to extend health care benefits authorized by the regulations made under that act to all members of the Canadian Forces who have been honourably discharged. The bill does not concern a question that is outside federal jurisdiction. It does not clearly violate the Constitution Acts. It does not concern a question that is substantially the same as one already voted on by the House of Commons. It does not concern a question that is currently on the order paper or notice paper.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Is everybody satisfied with that?

Thank you.

Just to end, I would appreciate if the members would consent to the subcommittee presenting a report listing those items that it has determined should not be designated non-votable and recommend that they be considered by the House. Do I have consent for that?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

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Conservative

Brad Butt Conservative Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

That will be a tough job, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

It is tough.

The meeting is adjourned.