Evidence of meeting #12 for Public Accounts in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clement.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Richard Dicerni  Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
Michelle d'Auray  Secretary of the Treasury Board of Canada, Treasury Board Secretariat
Yaprak Baltacioglu  Deputy Minister, Department of Transport
John Forster  Associate Deputy Minister, Infrastructure Canada, Department of Transport

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Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

I would be happy, in the spirit of parliamentary cooperation, to defer my questions to Ms. May.

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A voice

Your “question” or “questions”?

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

I gather you mean your “time”?

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Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

Ms. May.

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Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Thank you very much.

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Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

I'm trying to help out.

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Really, colleagues? I mean, the person who has the least amount of time is the one who's going to accommodate? That's okay?

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Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

That is the Liberal Party of Canada way, Mr. Chairman.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

You occupy the high road alone.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Therefore....

All right, Monsieur Caron, just quickly.

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NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

I thought that…

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

We're taking more time debating it than doing it.

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NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

I thought that the motion of the Conservatives presented on Monday meant that we would spend two hours with our witnesses. We unanimously agreed to shorten this meeting by 15 minutes. So I think we should continue until 5:15 p.m., following the rotation. I remember that when we discussed the rotation, we also agreed to the principle that the same party could not intervene twice in a row to ask questions.

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

All right.

I'm hearing--and I'll take it as a motion--that we would continue to do rotational questions until such time as we hit 5:15. In the rotation, Mr. Byrne has generously offered his spot to Ms. May. That's the issue before us.

Is there any further discussion?

Mr. Byrne.

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Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

It has normally been the practice of this committee that whatever the committee's reception of evidence, as we're hearing from those appearing before us and those appearing as witnesses before us, that if we do have to interrupt the normal proceedings of the committee, we actually ask the witnesses, and those appearing before us, to appear again.

So would it be possible, Mr. Chair, to ask Minister Baird, and more particularly Minister Clement, if they would come before us again?

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Minister Baird is indicating he's ready to respond.

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Thank you very much.

I am inspired by Gerry Byrne's non-partisan nature in wanting to assist our colleague and friend from the Green Party.

Could I suggest, though, that we just sit until 5:20, go with the normal rotation until 5:15, and then allow Ms. May to speak? I'm prepared to stay to hear her time.

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

You were fine until you started talking about who's going to speak—

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

—and then you crossed the line, Minister.

I hear what you have to say, but the matter is still before the committee.

Is there further discussion?

Mr. Byrne.

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Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

Mr. Chair, I'd like to entertain a suggestion that was made by Minister Baird. I'd like to repeat his statement on the record and simply ask if the committee would consider it—that we hear the testimony of the ministers and the witnesses appearing before us until 5:20, as Minister Baird did suggest.

And John, I appreciate the compliment. Thank you.

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Give, give, give, Gerry—that's what I do.

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NDP

The Chair NDP David Christopherson

Hold on, Minister, please; you're not being helpful.

Mr. Saxton.