I'm glad you mentioned sustainability, because I think it would be a mistake to believe that all government programs and initiatives could be managed in this way. I think we mentioned in testimony when we did the first audit that a lot of that was unsustainable and a lot of people worked a lot of long nights within the bureaucracy to do that. So I'm glad you mentioned that.
I think the answer to your question depends on the department and the nature of the issues. If it's a department that gets one big file once in a while, I think it's easy for a deputy to deal with it. I think deputies who have a lot of big files on an ongoing basis need to use their senior management structure. They need to make sure that they get good reporting within the department, and use their internal audit and their department audit committee as a good sounding board to give the deputy advice whether you have to stay on this one and stick with it.