Okay. I'm just wondering, because obviously Treasury Board guidelines are there for a reason. Those policies are set for a reason. When an agency does not abide by them, as is being reported right now through the Auditor General's report, I'm wondering how those situations are dealt with. I'm surprised that you wouldn't know at this stage.
I'll move now to paragraph 5.20. A question was raised earlier about five of the projects the report examined that went through the Canada Border Services Agency project management framework and that moved on to their next phases without meeting some of the necessary prerequisites that were outlined.
Could you outline to me what the five projects were, just so that we have it on the record, and why it was not necessary to meet the established prerequisites? What were the prerequisites, to start with, and how close were the five projects to meeting them? Were there any consequences for not meeting those prerequisites?
Perhaps you could explain that to me, because I don't think we've had a clear understanding of that at this stage.