Evidence of meeting #19 for Public Safety and National Security in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was firearms.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Barbara Byers  Executive Vice-President, Canadian Labour Congress
Patty Ducharme  National Executive Vice-President, Executive Office, Public Service Alliance of Canada, Canadian Labour Congress
Kevin Gaudet  Federal Director, Canadian Taxpayers Federation
Wendy Cukier  President, Coalition for Gun Control
Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu  Senator, CPC, Senate
Chris Bentley  Attorney General of Ontario, Government of Ontario
Duane Rutledge  Sergeant, As an Individual
Gary Mauser  Professor Emeritus, As an Individual

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Ms. Hoeppner, please.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Point of order.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Yes.

5:25 p.m.

An hon. member

La violence faite aux femmes, ce n'est pas important.

5:25 p.m.

An hon. member

Mr. Chair, who has the floor?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Do I have the floor, or...?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

You have a point of order. Are we going to run over time because you're taking time away from the Conservatives?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

No. You may rule this out of order, but I would suggest that, as chair, when witnesses do not have sufficient time to answer the questions asked of them, you simply indicate that they can do so in writing, through you, at a future date, and that will be distributed to the committee and become part of the official record.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Thank you.

I also reminded everybody that you have to allow time for the witnesses to answer while it's your time.

I'll give Ms. Hoeppner three minutes, please.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Professor Mauser, you were just basically vilified by the Bloc member Ms. Mourani because you own a firearm. You have a picture of yourself with a firearm.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that is what this whole debate is about. This is about a certain group of people who want to defend a registry because they believe that any person in this country who owns a firearm is bad and should be punished and is a criminal.

So I want to make that comment, and I want to ask you, have you ever been arrested or charged? Are you a criminal? Have you contributed to gun crime or violent crime in any way?

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Mr. Chairman, it seems that we—

5:25 p.m.

Professor Emeritus, As an Individual

Dr. Gary Mauser

Why, no. No, I haven't. If I had, I would lose my firearms licence and I would have my guns confiscated.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Thank you very much.

I have another question I wanted to ask....

Excuse me.

5:25 p.m.

A voice

Just keep going.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

I have another question I wanted to ask Mr. Gaudet. I have the—

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desnoyers Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Mr. Chairman—

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Mr. Chairman, I have a point of order. Order!

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

—current 2009-10 estimates in front of me. Right now under the firearms registry, not licensing—

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desnoyers Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Mr. Chairman, it is 5:30. You did not want to hear my witness, but you have given Ms. Hoeppner more time. Does she have more rights than I do?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Do I have the floor, Mr. Chair?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Mr. Desnoyers, that is out of order. You know that's incorrect. You have had as much time, or more; in fact, you had more time.

Please continue, Ms. Hoeppner.

5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desnoyers Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

As I said, it is 5:30.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Are their mikes off?

I will just continue, Mr. Gaudet.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Andrew Kania Liberal Brampton West, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Are you wanting to take away all the time from the Conservatives on points of order, Mr. Kania?