Evidence of meeting #19 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was offenders.

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Howard Sapers  Correctional Investigator of Canada, Office of the Correctional Investigator
Marie-France Kingsley  Director of Investigations, Office of the Correctional Investigator

12:55 p.m.

Correctional Investigator of Canada, Office of the Correctional Investigator

Howard Sapers

Let me say that the relationship between the Correctional Service of Canada and the Office of the Correctional Investigator is a very good, professional, productive relationship. I have investigative staff in an institution somewhere in this country every day. Cumulatively, my investigators spent over 400 days in institutions across the country last year. They are well received. They are well supported. We have very little difficulty in terms of getting access to the people, the places, the things, the documents that we need. In part that's because that's all guaranteed in law, but in part it's also because of the professionalism of both my staff and the men and women who work for the Correctional Service of Canada.

It's hardly ever adversarial—hardly ever. Sometimes it is. It's most adversarial, actually, when the commissioner and I sit down, and even then it's not very adversarial. By the time a problem isn't resolved at the institution, it's not resolved at the region, it's not resolved between the good work of my management team and the CSC management team, and it's something the commissioner and I have to meet and talk about, then positions are a little entrenched and it can be a bit positional, but we work through that. If there wasn't tension, then probably my job wouldn't be necessary.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Nicola Di Iorio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Have your investigators worked in the correctional system in the past?

1 p.m.

Director of Investigations, Office of the Correctional Investigator

Marie-France Kingsley

Yes. Some have been parole officers or even correctional officers. Some are also from other government departments.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Nicola Di Iorio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Thank you.

Mr. Chair, I see that it is 1:00 p.m. Thank you for the time I have been allocated.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

I would have given you another minute.

Thank you. It feels luxurious to have had you for this long. Thank you for bringing your dozen years of work here as well, and we look forward to the next year with you.

I have a reminder that the meeting on Thursday will deal with the supplementary estimates (A). The minister will be here. He's only able to come in the second hour, so I'm going to suggest that we meet at noon on Thursday. You'll have an extra hour because the officials don't want to go before the minister.

Thank you.

The meeting is adjourned.