Evidence of meeting #48 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.
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4:05 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
Yes. I move that Bill C-22, in clause 21, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 9 with the following:
of the first 30 days on which that House is sitting after a
In essence, it's just to ensure that the report is tabled as soon as it's practical to do so.
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Conservative
Tony Clement Conservative Parry Sound—Muskoka, ON
Could I just ask, Chair, when was this amendment tabled?
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Conservative
Tony Clement Conservative Parry Sound—Muskoka, ON
Why do I have copies of LIB-14, but not LIB-13 in my package?
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Conservative
Tony Clement Conservative Parry Sound—Muskoka, ON
I have it, sorry. Never mind.
(Amendment agreed to)
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Liberal
4:05 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I'm not going to read all of this into the record, but in essence what it does is the report that is tabled in the House will also be referred to either the Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defence, or some other name, as it may be named later, and the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security of the House. It came up in testimony that it would be advisable for that report to be tabled with the appropriate committee, so it amends the bill to have that done.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 21 as amended agreed to)
(On clause 22)
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Liberal
4:10 p.m.
NDP
Matthew Dubé NDP Beloeil—Chambly, QC
Yes, I'll move that, Chair.
We obviously heard a lot about the horizontal integration and the learning curve that comes with such a committee. This amendment seeks to have the existing bodies provide different reports to the committee of parliamentarians. Specifically, we're talking about special reports from the RCMP's Civilian Review and Complaints Commission; reports from the CSE commissioner to the Attorney General on activities that may not be in compliance with the law; and the contents of the special briefings prepared by SIRC, and the special reports prepared by SIRC, two different things worth distinguishing. This was endorsed by Craig Forcese, Kent Roach, Ron Atkey, and Richard Fadden as well, so I hope I will have the support of the committee for this amendment.
4:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant
Is there any discussion regarding the NDP amendment to clause 22?
Mr. Clement.
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Conservative
4:10 p.m.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I just want to say it appears to me that the wording in clause 22 now allows those bodies to share information with the committee.
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NDP
Matthew Dubé NDP Beloeil—Chambly, QC
It says the review bodies may provide to the committee, and then under “Exceptions”, what it must not, whereas our amendment says that in addition to the information the review body may provide—sorry, am I reading the right thing here? The “appropriate review body must provide to the Committee the following” and it makes those mandatory, as opposed to the more open language that is there. These reports aren't enumerated with a “must” before them in the legislation as drafted.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
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NDP
Matthew Dubé NDP Beloeil—Chambly, QC
I'll move it anyway, I suppose, but it was more as a follow-up housekeeping amendment had we adopted our previous amendment, which would have just made cabinet confidences the only item that cannot be shared between the committee and the review bodies. It's a bit irrelevant now, because it was a complementary piece to the previous amendment.
4:10 p.m.
Conservative
Dianne Lynn Watts Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC
I'm sorry, I need it again. I'm sorry to my colleague for jumping in.
The passing of the previous clause in the amendment, any agency that we have under review, and correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't have to give us information, if they choose not to.
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Liberal