Evidence of meeting #9 for Public Safety and National Security in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was work.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michelle Tessier  Deputy Director, Operations, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
John Ossowski  President, Canada Border Services Agency
Brenda Lucki  Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Rob Stewart  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Alain Tousignant  Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Mark D'Amore

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay, that would solve that problem.

Is there appetite to ask any other questions?

Seeing none, we'll move to call the question. Because we're in this hybrid situation and I don't feel overly confident that I know how to do this, the first question, as I understand it, is on the main estimates, and it's votes 1, 5 and 10. I'm going to look to the clerk to guide us.

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NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Go ahead, , Mr. Harris.

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NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Last night we had the same issue with foreign affairs, of course at the end of the meeting, and the question was put as to whether or not the committee was prepared to pass the estimates on division, without a vote. I think it was agreed by the committee that this was a proper way for them to proceed, and that's what was done. I think the clerk there talked about that, and maybe the clerk can give advice on that as well.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

That's what I was seeking, Mr. Harris, but I thank you for that guidance.

Go ahead, Mr. Clerk.

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The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Mark D'Amore

It's however the committee wishes to proceed. They can group them. They can vote on division. They can look at them individually.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

We have to have two votes, though, one on the main estimates and one on the supplementaries, right?

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The Clerk

That's correct. It's one on the main estimates and one on the supplementaries—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

The first question will be on the main estimates. On those, can we move forward on division? Is that appropriate?

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Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Yes, it can be on division, Mr. Chair, on our side.

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NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

On division.

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Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

We're agreeable to that?

Is that sufficient for the formalities of reporting, Mr. Clerk? It is.

CANADA BORDER SERVICES AGENCY

Vote 1—Operating expenditures..........$1,822,908,053

Vote 5—Capital expenditures..........$177,772,983

(Votes 1 and 5 agreed to on division)

CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$598,034,351

(Vote 1 agreed to on division)

CIVILIAN REVIEW AND COMPLAINTS COMMISSION FOR THE ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$9,284,989

(Vote 1 agreed to on division)

CORRECTIONAL SERVICE OF CANADA

Vote 1—Operating expenditures, grants and contributions..........$2,145,688,776

Vote 5—Capital expenditures..........$187,796,912

(Votes 1 and 5 agreed to on division)

DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS

Vote 1—Operating expenditures..........$143,921,366

Vote 5—Grants and contributions..........$565,749,061

(Votes 1 and 5 agreed to on division)

NATIONAL SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE REVIEW AGENCY SECRETARIAT

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$22,801,056

(Vote 1 agreed to on division)

OFFICE OF THE CORRECTIONAL INVESTIGATOR OF CANADA

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$4,735,703

(Vote 1 agreed to on division)

PAROLE BOARD OF CANADA

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$41,877,803

(Vote 1 agreed to on division)

ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE

Vote 1—Operating expenditures..........$2,610,780,627

Vote 5—Capital expenditures..........$249,275,558

Vote 10—Grants and contributions..........$195,339,283

(Votes 1, 5 and 10 agreed to on division)

ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE EXTERNAL REVIEW COMMITTEE

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$2,894,153

(Vote 1 agreed to on division)

SECRETARIAT OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE OF PARLIAMENTARIANS

Vote 1—Program expenditures..........$3,331,078

(Vote 1 agreed to on division)

The second vote is on the supplementary estimates. Shall I ask whether that is to move on division?

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Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Yes, on division.

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NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Yes, on division.

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Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

On division.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

CANADA BORDER SERVICES AGENCY

Vote 1b—Operating expenditures..........$ 7,690,722

Vote 5b—Capital expenditures..........$32,000

(Votes 1b and 5b agreed to on division)

CANADIAN SECURITY INTELLIGENCE SERVICE

Vote 1b—Program expenditures..........$2,046,981

(Vote 1b agreed to on division)

CORRECTIONAL SERVICE OF CANADA

Vote 1b—Operating expenditures, grants and contributions..........$130,549,259

(Vote 1b agreed to on division)

DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS

Vote 1b—Operating expenditures..........$3,797,487

Vote 5b—Grants and contributions..........$ 13,370,400

(Votes 1b and 5b agreed to on division)

PAROLE BOARD OF CANADA

Vote 1b—Program expenditures..........$3,200,000

(Vote 1b agreed to on division)

ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE

Vote 1b—Operating expenditures..........$7,682,839

Vote 5b—Capital expenditures..........$6,768,607

(Votes 1b and 5b agreed to on division)

ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE EXTERNAL REVIEW COMMITTEE

Vote 1b—Program expenditures..........$1,777,368

(Vote 1b agreed to on division)

Shall I report the will of the committee to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I'll have Mr. Motz stand beside me when I do that.

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Conservative

Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB

Thanks, Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay, have we completed the formalities, Mr. Clerk, to be able to move forward?

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The Clerk

Yes, we have.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay. Now, colleagues, just for information, number one, as you know, on Monday there is going to be the fall economic statement. That falls right into our time slot, and in informal conversations with you, we're proposing that we cancel our time at that time.

Is that acceptable to colleagues?

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NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Okay.