Evidence of meeting #31 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Do we have other commentary or observations?
Are there other hands up, Clerk?
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The Clerk
Yes, Mr. Anandasangaree would like to speak.
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Liberal
Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON
Thank you.
With the greatest respect to Mr. Perkins, I would disagree. Disclosure of this nature is undertaken strictly at the level of the departmental officials and not at the minister's office or the minister's discretion in any circumstances.
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Bloc
Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
Maybe we could compromise and not have the minister, just his officials.
I don't know if that would please everyone.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
That would be in the form of a subamendment, I would gather. We have to deal with the amendment that's on the floor now.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Are there any comments about the amendment?
If there aren't, we'll go to a vote. If there are, I'd like to know whose hands are up.
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The Clerk
Mr. Anandasangaree.
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Liberal
Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON
Mr. Chair, with respect to Ms. Michaud's amendment, we would be in agreement with that, if that is the will of the committee.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Clerk, do we then proceed to a vote on the amendment or do we introduce a subamendment as Ms. Michaud has suggested?
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The Clerk
You can vote on the subamendment by Ms. Michaud and then go from there.
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Liberal
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The Clerk
The subamendment, I believe, was to simply remove the minister and to keep the officials in the motion.
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Liberal
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The Clerk
There are no comments in the room.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Let's take the subamendment to a vote.
Clerk, remind us about what the vote constitutes and then call the roll, please.
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The Clerk
Mr. Lloyd would like to speak first.
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Conservative
Dane Lloyd Conservative Sturgeon River—Parkland, AB
Can I just move that we have unanimous consent on the subamendment?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
That's music to my ears. We have agreement and unanimity that the subamendment, as articulated by the clerk a moment ago, shall pass.
(Subamendment agreed to)
We move back to the amendment.
Can you remind us, Clerk, of the amendment we're debating?
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The Clerk
Yes. The amendment was to remove both the minister and the officials from the motion. Now the officials remain in the motion per the subamendment, so it gets a little bit tricky here. You're now just removing the minister from the motion.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Yes, there's agreement to remove the minister. There's no agreement that I've heard to remove the officials; the officials should stay as part of the amended motion.