Evidence of meeting #24 for Status of Women in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was work.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Suzanne Clément  Coordinator and Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada
Sébastien Goupil  Director General, Policy and External Relations, Status of Women Canada
Nanci-Jean Waugh  Director General, Communications and Public Affairs, Status of Women Canada
Linda Savoie  Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

I ask people to please take their seats.

We're going to begin, because we are under a time constraint.

I want to welcome the minister here today to the Standing Committee on the Status of Women. We are looking at the main estimates 2012-2013, votes 30 and 35, under the human resources and skills development ministry.

Minister, you have ten minutes for your opening statement. Please begin.

3:30 p.m.

Edmonton—Spruce Grove Alberta

Conservative

Rona Ambrose ConservativeMinister for Status of Women

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Thank you to all the committee members for inviting me to discuss the main estimates for the status of women program. I'm very happy to be here.

I trust you all celebrated International Women's Week last week and International Women's Day. I hope you had a good one.

Before I proceed, I would like to introduce my officials from the department who are here today. I'm joined today by Suzanne Clément, the head of agency at Status of Women Canada; Linda Savoie, who is our director general of the women's program; and Johanne Tremblay, who is our chief financial officer. I want to thank them for joining us at the committee and making time to be here with us.

In addition to discussing the main estimates, Madam Chair, I'd like to update you—because it's been a little while since I've had a chance to see all of you—on some of our current work and also highlight some of our recent achievements, particularly in the areas of recognizing the International Day of the Girl, which all political parties were involved in; gender-based analysis, which we've been working on with other government departments; and supporting grassroots projects through our women's program.

First, let me congratulate the committee for undertaking its current study on improving the economic prospects for Canadian girls. It is an important issue and I look forward to your report.

The main estimates, of course, for Status of Women Canada, you know from the report, will be $29.4 million for the 2012-2013 fiscal year, and of this amount $18.9 million will be allocated for grants and contributions under the women's program. As you know, our government support for community-based women's projects has almost doubled since we took office, and it's at its highest level ever.

Status of Women Canada's work remains focused on three priority areas: increasing women's economic security and prosperity; encouraging women's leadership and democratic participation; and of course ending violence against women and girls. With these priorities, Status of Women Canada is acting in a very targeted and efficient way. Our government is committed to responding to the needs of Canadians in a prudent and also fiscally responsible way.

As you know, internationally the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women is Status of Women Canada's primary focus. Last year I, along with Plan Canada, led the call for an international day of the girl to help raise awareness of girls' rights and to focus attention on the fact—of course, which we all know—that girls' rights are human rights. I was pleased that the House of Commons unanimously supported having Canada lead this international campaign, and I thank all political parties and members here for their support of this initiative.

After much hard work, the resolution designating the International Day of the Girl was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on December 19 of last year. Canada will celebrate the first International Day of the Girl Child on October 11 this year, 2012. So 10-11-12—mark it in your calendars—will be the first of many days to come where we can focus on the issues that uniquely affect girls.

I've recently returned from this year's meeting at the UN Commission on the Status of Women, and I recount to you that everyone is very excited about celebrating this day. I was very proud that Canada was recognized as the leader in this initiative, and also inspired to hear what other countries were planning on doing for their day of celebration to highlight challenges in their own countries that girls face when it comes to human rights. This day is being seen around the world as an opportunity to highlight the positive contributions and leadership roles girls play in their communities, and of course to bring to light some of these most challenging issues.

Girls have plans. We heard from girls who are going to use this day as a way to raise awareness about their right to an education, access to health care, and their fight to stop.... Some of the very difficult challenges they face are in harmful cultural practices, such as honour-motivated violence, female genital mutilation, and forced marriages.

Status of Women Canada, as you know, plays a lead role in the implementation of gender-based analysis across government, otherwise known as GBA to many members on this committee. As you know, this is a tool that assists us in systematically integrating gender considerations—that is, of course, the unique attributes of men and women and how their circumstances may differ—into the decision-making process of government, and it helps us develop better policies.

As an example, officials from Status of Women Canada, at my request, recently met with the commissioner of the RCMP to offer our assistance, advice, and encouragement to conduct a gender-based analysis of its policies to support the RCMP in finding solutions to the issue of sexual harassment. Of course an essential element of conducting gender-based analysis is the availability of reliable information.

To meet this objective, 18 federal organizations were engaged to support the release of the sixth edition of Statistics Canada's Women in Canada, copies of which I am pleased to table with you today.

We're happy to be sharing that with you today. This is the work that Status of Women Canada did with Statistics Canada in compiling some excellent gender-based statistical information that can be used, of course, not only by the government but by NGOs and provincial, territorial, and municipal governments to understand better the situation of women across the country and to help them develop more responsive policies and programs. We'll be sharing a copy of that with all of you today.

The women's program continues to play a critical role in supporting the work of Canadian organizations at the local, regional, and national level to tackle the challenging issues of violence, economic security, and of course democratic participation. Through Status of Women Canada, we have supported now 500 new projects since 2007, again in three priority areas: improving women's economic security and prosperity, ending violence against women and girls, and advancing women in leadership roles and decision-making.

These projects invest where the need is greatest and where there is clear potential for making a difference in the lives of women and girls. Through targeted calls for proposals, Status of Women Canada has been able to support new organizations and expand its reach across the country.

This targeted approach has also provided Status of Women Canada with flexibility, which is key in responding to new and emerging issues facing Canadian women and girls. For instance, last fall we issued two new calls for proposals. One involved the engagement of young people, in particular students and student groups, to prevent violence against women on university and college campuses. This was a very innovative idea because we turned to students themselves and student organizations to ask them what they thought would work to address the issue of safety on campuses.

Just last week we were also able to announce the results of another call for proposals that we did last year that supports the advancement of women and girls living in rural and remote areas and small urban centres. We were able to announce 48 projects that will support the economic security and safety of women and girls in rural and remote communities. We believe, of course, that women's safety goes hand in hand with their economic security.

These projects are as diverse as the communities they will serve and the women and girls who live in them as well. A one-size-fits-all solution does not work, given the many different realities of rural, remote, and northern communities. For example, there is a local project in British Columbia that's going to develop a community response plan for support services, and to make their support services more accessible to women, while at the same time working on issues of violence.

In a project in Quebec, young women will work with stakeholders to develop a new economic plan that addresses the barriers they face. In Nova Scotia, Aboriginal women will be linked through a community plan that shares knowledge and helps address violence against women.

These projects also reflect Canada's theme for this year's International Women's Week, which is “Strong Women, Strong Canada--Women in Rural, Remote and Northern Communities: Key to Canada's Economic Prosperity”. This theme, of course, reminds us that Canada is a very vast country where nearly one in five women lives outside of large urban centres. We also brought along, to share with you—if you haven't received it yet—a compilation of all of the work we've done in regard to women and girls in rural and remote and northern communities, which outlines some of the projects that are happening across the country. We'll make sure we share that with you as well.

We do hope that this theme inspires Canadians to celebrate the unique lives of the more than three million women who live in over 5,000 rural, remote, and northern communities across this country. Together, all of these efforts provide women and girls with the knowledge, the skills, and the tools and resources that can and do facilitate their full participation in the economic, social, and democratic life of Canada.

I should also add that by using targeted calls for proposals it has allowed us more flexibility and it has responded directly to the government's objective of streamlining our practices and addressing some of the long-standing concerns about reducing the administrative burden that NGOs and community organizations had. We've had very good response about using these kinds of targeted calls for proposals from groups themselves.

Of course violence against women is an issue that cuts across communities, regions, provinces, and territories. Aboriginal women and girls are particularly vulnerable. The Government of Canada is committed to addressing this serious issue and is working with organizations across Canada toward this common goal.

Since 2007 the women's program alone—

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Excuse me, Minister. We're well over time now. Could you wrap up in five seconds?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rona Ambrose Conservative Edmonton—Spruce Grove, AB

Sure, I'd be happy to.

I'd like to highlight that the women's program alone has now funded over 60 projects to support aboriginal women, and more than 60% of those have gone directly to address the issue of violence.

All that to say that of the 500 projects that the status of women program has funded over the last few years, many of those go toward ending violence against women, in particular, supporting our three priorities.

We're happy to be here to answer questions on the estimates or on any other questions the committee may have.

3:40 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Thank you very much, Minister. We certainly appreciate your being here.

We are now going into a seven-minute round. Unfortunately, we only have time for one round.

We'll begin with Madam Truppe.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Minister Ambrose and the officials for coming today. I think I speak for everyone on the committee that everyone has been looking forward to hearing you today. Thank you for being here and taking the time.

I have a question for Minister Ambrose. Why did you make International Day of the Girl a priority, and can you tell us the reaction from some of the other countries on the establishment of the day?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rona Ambrose Conservative Edmonton—Spruce Grove, AB

We made it a priority because we met with a number of girls from around the world who worked through Plan Canada on a project called “Because I'm a Girl”. They talked about some of the challenges they face, whether it's forced marriages, access to education, access to health care, female genital mutilation. They said these are issues they face as girls, not as women. When we talked about International Women's Day, their clear and honest response was that they don't connect with that and they want to talk about things at school that affect them. It occurred to me that this was a great idea. They asked if Canada would champion this resolution through the United Nations, and we did.

It was a lot of work, but we got a great reception from a number of countries, particularly Turkey and Peru, which came on very early to help champion this through the United Nations. We ended up with 110 co-sponsoring countries.

Every country will celebrate this in a different way, but we've met with a number of countries that are going to be focusing their celebration on challenging issues for girls, particularly some controversial issues, like forced marriage. It allows governments themselves, and advocates within those governments, to champion some of these issues that are a little more difficult to tackle.

Again, if girls know their rights at a very young age, they're more willing to exercise them. We think it's a great initiative and we're happy to have championed it.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

Thank you.

In your opening remarks you mentioned you were at the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women. Can you tell us what you were able to do while you were there?

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Rona Ambrose Conservative Edmonton—Spruce Grove, AB

We were there with a delegation. The theme this year was a spotlight on women and girls in rural and remote northern communities and the challenges they face. We thought it was an excellent theme for Canada as well, so we chose it as our own theme for International Women's Week in Canada.

I mentioned in my opening remarks that there are three million Canadian women living in about 5,000 rural and remote communities. They experience a different reality from women who live in cities. They're more isolated and they have less access to services. Because of that they can sometimes experience more difficulty in getting the support they need, especially when it comes to economic security, and physical safety, of course, if they're experiencing violence.

It was a good opportunity to highlight what we can do in Canada. I was really glad that this was the theme. It gave us an opportunity at Status of Women Canada, through the women's program, to make connections with groups across the country that we hadn't made connections with before.

We put out a targeted call for proposals, and we had almost 250 responses from groups in small towns that have never really contacted us before. Now we have a connection with them. If we can't help them, we can get them the information that may help them. I think it was a win-win situation all around.

Of course at the UN a lot of countries were focused on the issue of poverty that women are facing in third world countries. As I said, here in Canada we're dealing more with issues of isolation that women face in rural and remote communities.

It was a good meeting for Canada, and we participated in a number of different round tables while we were there. I co-chaired a round table with some organizations that are doing work to involve men and boys in a dialogue to end violence against women and girls. That was very fruitful.

Beyond that, of course, we had bilateral meetings with some ministers from other countries to discuss some of the initiatives they're working on and share some of the things Canada is working on.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

Thank you.

Am I still good?

3:45 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Yes, you have about three minutes.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

Okay, good.

I have a question for Suzanne Clément. I know it has been stated many times that the government is committed to ensuring that gender-based analysis is used by all departments and agencies. The former Auditor General pointed out in her spring 2009 report that ultimately the responsibility for performing gender-based analysis rests with departments and agencies. Is GBA really being used in the departments? Can you explain maybe a little bit about that?

3:45 p.m.

Suzanne Clément Coordinator and Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Yes.

Departments were asked as part of the departmental action plan on gender-based analysis to implement structures, procedures, processes, and policies within their own departments in order to ensure that they institutionalize GBA as an ongoing and sustainable practice within their organizations. Much of the work that is done in this area is to input into the development process for memorandums to cabinet and TB submissions. We know that the central agencies are playing a role in ensuring that the departments have undertaken a GBA as they develop the processes, core policies, and new programs. All TB submissions and policies are subject to that analysis.

Although we don't have access to information that would be available to the department on the development of an MC, we know they are making great efforts in the department in order to implement GBA as a sustainable practice, just from the many calls we get and the many interactions we have with the departments in helping them implement it.

Some of the things we do to assist them would be helping to institutionalize the process within their organization. Each department is structured differently, so we talk with them, we provide them with advice on how to best ensure its implementation. We also provide them with training--in particular, access to trainers. We provide them with training tools, checklists, and information on the use of GBA, and how to understand GBA. We're also in the final stages of developing an online training session for GBA. Departments have shown a very keen interest in obtaining those. We also have an interdepartmental table of online GBA.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Madame, I'm awfully sorry; we're at time. Perhaps you could continue with other questions.

3:50 p.m.

Coordinator and Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

3:50 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Madame Boivin, for seven minutes, please.

March 14th, 2012 / 3:50 p.m.

NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I would like to thank the witnesses for joining us. We apologize to the witnesses who were here last week. We had to cut our meeting short because of the votes, while the presentation sounded like it was going to be rather interesting.

I am very happy to finally see you at the Standing Committee on the Status of Women, Madam Minister. I am saying this nicely because I feel that your being here is necessary. For all those who believe in the importance of the status of women, it is extremely important to see the leadership of the minister. We know that you have huge responsibilities with Public Works and Government Services, but Status of Women Canada should not be the department's poor cousin.

Having said that, we are here to talk about the estimates and all that. We know that the budget will be tabled on March 29. I would really like to know if we can expect to see you again. We can always learn from the past, but I am often more interested in the future. The past still helps me understand the future. Actually, I feel that 40 minutes before the committee in an entire year does not show sufficient leadership on the minister's part. That is even more true in light of what is coming up and the things we hear about the budget.

I know there is a lot of concern at Status of Women Canada and in organizations that are working in that area. We know that, when there are budget cuts, women are often the first ones to be affected.

Can we expect to see you back soon, after the budget is tabled, at least for one session, in order to see what is in store for the Status of Women Canada's budget in 2012-2013?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rona Ambrose Conservative Edmonton—Spruce Grove, AB

Sure, I would be happy to come back. Of course the votes are not in any of our control. I wish we had more time today. I would be happy to come back.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Excellent, thank you. I will take your word for it. So that's great.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Madame Truppe.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

I just wanted to say that the committee can decide among ourselves on another time when the minister can come back.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

At least we know the minister is quite willing to come.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

Yes.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

I'd be surprised that the committee wouldn't want the minister to come back.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

That's up to the committee.