Evidence of meeting #49 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was women.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Diana Sarosi  Senior Policy Advisor, Oxfam Canada
Jennifer Howard  Executive Director, Public Service Alliance of Canada
Lisa Kelly  Director, Women's Department, Unifor
Kate McInturff  Senior Researcher, National Office, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives
Vicky Smallman  National Director, Women's and Human Rights, Canadian Labour Congress
Angella MacEwen  Senior Economist, Canadian Labour Congress
Megan Hooft  Deputy Director, Canada Without Poverty
Michèle Biss  Legal Education and Outreach Coordinator, Canada Without Poverty
Alana Robert  As an Individual
Shania Pruden  As an Individual
Natasha Kornak  As an Individual
Anne Elizabeth Morin  As an Individual
Antu Hossain  As an Individual
Aygadim Majagalee Ducharme  As an Individual
Élisabeth Gendron  As an Individual

10:50 a.m.

Senior Economist, Canadian Labour Congress

Angella MacEwen

Being a person with disabilities, a racialized person.... If you're a woman and you're racialized, you have more discrimination than, say, I do.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Next one.

10:50 a.m.

National Director, Women's and Human Rights, Canadian Labour Congress

Vicky Smallman

I would say it's the lack of decent work.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Lack of decent work, okay.

Next, Michèle.

10:50 a.m.

Legal Education and Outreach Coordinator, Canada Without Poverty

Michèle Biss

I would say it's political will towards a rights-based approach that recognizes women's economic and social rights.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Okay.

Megan.

10:50 a.m.

Deputy Director, Canada Without Poverty

Megan Hooft

It's implementation of policies and programs that don't consider a gendered lens.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Okay, so that's discrimination.

10:50 a.m.

Deputy Director, Canada Without Poverty

Megan Hooft

It's implementation.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Implementation? Okay.

And honestly, I want more terms. I don't want explanatory lines, because then I want to go back and say, “Then tell me, what are your solutions?”

10:50 a.m.

Senior Researcher, National Office, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives

Dr. Kate McInturff

It's violence against women.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Violence against women.

Okay, so what do we do now to deal with unpaid work? How do we give that a monetary value that is fair to all Canadians, whether they choose to stay at home or choose not to stay at home, whether they have eight parents, or they have two parents, or no parents? What can we do for things like that?

10:50 a.m.

Senior Economist, Canadian Labour Congress

Angella MacEwen

One of the really big things that we can do is to add eight weeks of parental leave for fathers under a “use it or lose it” model, and that actually improves—

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Right now, there are totally 35 parental leave weeks, so—

10:50 a.m.

Senior Economist, Canadian Labour Congress

Angella MacEwen

Yes, but Quebec has a model with an extra five weeks that only the second parent can take, so it's called “use it or lose it”.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Eight weeks over and above, so you're talking about a 60-week leave then. Okay, so another option—

10:50 a.m.

Senior Economist, Canadian Labour Congress

Angella MacEwen

What it does is rebalance the unpaid care workload at home.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Okay.

What can we do when it comes to discrimination against women, whether they're disabled or because they're female?

10:50 a.m.

Senior Researcher, National Office, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives

Dr. Kate McInturff

We can listen to them, and that means we need to support women's organizations to speak about women's experiences of discrimination. I think my colleagues from Canada Without Poverty can speak to this as well, but if you're a woman living in a situation of domestic violence, you maybe don't have time to come to Ottawa and talk to the committee. However, if there's a shelter organization that's empowered not only to provide them a safe place to live, but actually to talk to the leaders in their community about what those women need, then they might see—

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Okay, I'm just trying to be really brief here.

10:50 a.m.

National Director, Women's and Human Rights, Canadian Labour Congress

Vicky Smallman

I would also add employment equity legislation and pay equity legislation.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Okay, and I want to talk about the lack of decent work. What can we do to deal with this? Karen brought up the fact that there are apprenticeship programs. What can we do to create more work opportunities for women?

10:50 a.m.

Senior Economist, Canadian Labour Congress

Angella MacEwen

Lack of decent work can be addressed by proactive employment standards enforcement. Manitoba has a model. You can make a complaint, and it doesn't have to be brought forward by the worker themselves.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Okay, I want a specific issue.

10:50 a.m.

Senior Economist, Canadian Labour Congress

Angella MacEwen

That is a specific issue. Proactive labour standards enforcement: you can't be working at a temporary agency and being paid less than the person working next to you, and not getting the benefits, right?