Shall the bill as amended carry?
Evidence of meeting #61 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was reasons.
A video is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #61 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was reasons.
A video is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS
I have a quick point of order again, Madam Chair.
We voted for the coordinating amendment in clause 6 a moment ago. I believe, by virtue of Liberal amendment number three, which removed section 159.... I don't know if that impacted how the coordinating amendment should have been dealt with.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu
At this point, having approved clause 6, I would have to have your unanimous consent to unapprove it so that you can consider it.
Do I have unanimous consent to unapprove clause 6?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Liberal
Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS
Can I just have 30 seconds to have a quick discussion and make sure I understand what I'm about to argue here.
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Liberal
Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS
Thank you very much.
As a result of Liberal amendment number three, which no longer included section 159, the coordinating amendment has become unnecessary, so I would suggest that we actually vote against clause 6. I think we were going through it quickly and out of routine thought we were approving it. I did intend to vote against clause 6, so the legislation makes sense, given the previous amendment.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu
The clerk says that I ask the question, “Shall clause 6 carry?” If you don't want it to be there, say no.
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NDP
Sheila Malcolmson NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC
As my father would say, can you say the funny part slowly? That was way too abbreviated.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu
Basically, if we want to get rid of clause 6, then when I ask the question “Shall clause 6 carry?”, you say no.
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Voices
Oh, oh!
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Liberal
Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS
That's right, I have that problem by times.
With respect to the section that dealt with written decisions in my opening remarks on that proposed amendment, there were three things that it did. One was the piece about the substantive issue about written decisions, which we've discussed at length and I think we're all on the same page on. The second dealt with jury trials, which was a technical issue that's still dealt with in the new proposed language. The third section dealt with section 159, which has been deemed unconstitutional, and is the subject of legislation that will remove what I called a “zombie law” from the books.
The coordinating amendment in clause 6 seeks to do the same thing in a different and perhaps more complicated way. It becomes unnecessary because section 159 is no longer part of the section dealing with written reasons after Liberal amendment number three was passed.
Does that make sense or am I still being unclear?
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NDP
Sheila Malcolmson NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC
Almost, but I want to make sure that our Conservative friends who are the shepherds of this think it makes sense.
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Conservative
Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON
I see exactly where he was referring to, and I recognize that section 159 is being removed so this is just a duplication, redundant.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu
With that in mind, shall clause 6 carry?
(Clause 6 negatived)
We return to our regularly scheduled program. I think the title is where we were.
Shall the title carry?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Conservative
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Some hon. members
Agreed.