Evidence of meeting #7 for Status of Women in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was victimization.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Linda Savoie  Senior Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada
Yvan Clermont  Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Rebecca Kong  Chief, Policing Services Program, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Justine Akman  Director General, Policy and External Relations, Policy and External Relations Directorate, Status of Women Canada
Samuel Perreault  Analyst, General Social Survey on Victimization, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Laura Munn-Rivard  Committee Researcher

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Good afternoon.

I think we will start even though we are still waiting for our friends from StatsCan who are caught in the security lineup, potentially being frisked. The good news is that they're with us until five o'clock, so we'll have plenty of opportunity to question them.

I want to welcome back our representatives from Status of Women, Linda Savoie and Justine Akman. We appreciate your being with us again.

Today we're going to be focusing on the topic we've decided to study, which has to do with violence against women and has quite a broad scope.

Linda, would you like to go first?

3:35 p.m.

Linda Savoie Senior Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada

Thank you very much.

We thought we'd just take the opportunity in a few minutes to set the stage by giving you a little bit of an overview of some of the work and the approaches that we've taken at Status of Women in dealing with the issue of violence against women and girls.

So thank you again for inviting us, and thank you for this work on this study, which will be extremely valuable.

As an agency, as I mentioned, we draw on a variety of approaches. For instance, as a centre of excellence on gender issues, we engage with partners to develop knowledge on a range of violence issues such as human trafficking, cyber-violence, engaging youth in violence prevention, engaging men and boys in violence prevention, and so on and so forth.

We also support organizations on the ground in terms of their ability to take action in their communities to eliminate gender-based violence. Through our commemorative events and our social media outreach, we engage Canadians to become part of the solution to reducing all forms of violence.

I thought I would speak a little bit more in detail to some of the policy work of our agency, as well as some of the projects that we fund.

To begin with, the policy process often begins with the development of issue briefs on both emerging and persistent issues such as sexual violence, and engaging men and boys. These briefs are used to enhance the collective understanding of the issues and they often point us to promising ways to address these issues.

This policy work also involves collaborating with key experts on knowledge sharing and networking events. At various fora, they bring the right players together to talk about how to make progress in advancing gender equality. For example, the agency has hosted events on cyberbullying as well as on online sexual exploitation in the lives of girls. Most recently one of these events was done jointly with the FPT Forum of Ministers Responsible for the Status of Women, and it focused on sexual violence.

My colleague, Justine Akman, will be pleased to provide you further information on our policy work.

As you are aware, our agency also offers project funding to address violence against young women and girls. Three clusters of such projects may be of greater interest to you for this study: those with a focus on the role of men and boys in preventing violence, cyber violence, and campus violence.

With respect to engaging men and boys, we have funded projects to develop the willingness and the skills of men and boys to play a role in eliminating gender-based violence in their communities. The early findings are encouraging and indicate that it must be done in partnership with women and girls. Another finding is that there is an appetite by men and boys to be actively engaged in eliminating violence against women.

Another group of projects that we funded addressed violence against young women on university and college campuses. Through these projects, we have learned ways to address safety for the young women who attend postsecondary institutions. I should tell you that these projects go beyond simply strengthening physical safety measures; they also look at the necessary reforms to procedures, policies and victim services.

As a last example, we are presently engaged in a number of projects that address cyber violence. These projects are demonstrating the growing significance of this issue for young women in Canada and the diverse forms that cyber violence takes: from name-calling to harassment, cyber stalking, spreading sexual rumours, threats, and the non-consensual sharing of sexual images.

Unfortunately, young women in Canada are faced with all these forms of violence.

There's a whole spectrum of issues that are now being examined as part of these cyber-violence projects. For instance, some are looking at how gaming companies can create inclusive environments; others are looking at how platform owners can provide a safe space for women users. Also, some of the schools involved in these projects are looking at developing policies that ensure that students are educated about appropriate online behaviours and that rules are in place to ensure safety.

To conclude, so as not to take up too much time but leave some for questions, this is an extremely brief overview of the ways Status of Women Canada addresses the issue of violence against young women and girls.

There are gaps. There are areas you may have a particular interest in exploring. For example, additional sex and gender disaggregated data would enable us to better understand the nature and the extent of gendered violence in Canada. Further work is also needed to better understand the contexts that contribute to different forms of gender-based violence, such as the role of social media, hyper-sexualization, and even the normalization of violence.

Of course, I know you will have the opportunity to tap into the expertise of stakeholders from outside government. We are confident that they will be able to point you to best practices that they have identified for responding to violence against young women and girls.

In closing, I want to thank this committee again for undertaking this study.

My colleague and I would be pleased to answer your questions.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Thank you. That was excellent.

I'm pleased to welcome Rebecca Kong and Yvan Clermont from Statistics Canada. We're happy to have you here today to help us investigate the issues of violence against women.

You have 10 minutes.

3:40 p.m.

Yvan Clermont Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada

Thank you.

I'd like to begin by thanking the members of this committee for the invitation to present the most recent data on the issue of violence against young women and girls in this country. I'm accompanied today by Rebecca Kong, chief of the policing services program, who is from the Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, as I am. Ms. Kong will help me with some of the questions you may have. I also have another analyst here with me, Samuel Perreault, who will be here in case there are more specific questions regarding the general social survey on victimization, Samuel being the main analyst on this particular survey.

I'll be presenting an overview of certain key indicators relating to violence against young women and girls. In this presentation we'll be drawing from both police-reported data supplied by police services, as well as self-reported data on victimizations. As we know, many forms of violence never come to the attention of the police.

Before I start by talking about the results you're going to see on the graphs and the charts today, I'd like to draw your attention to our most recent statistics from the general social survey on victimization: violent victimization has declined between 2004 and 2014 by 28%. During this time period declines in both robbery and physical assaults were specifically noted, however rates of sexual assaults have remained stable over that same period. For the first time, in 2014 women in Canada had higher self-reported violent victimization rates than men. This trend is attributable to the fact that rates of sexual assault have not declined and that the majority of victims of this type of crime are women.

If you look at the first chart we have here, you're going to see results from a survey we did on victimization pertaining to more than 30,000 Canadians who reported on their experiences of child maltreatment at the hands of an adult prior to the age of 15. Approximately 30% of them reported being physically or sexually abused by an adult prior to age 15. Overall 27% of Canadian women stated they had been victimized as a child, with 22% stating they had been physically abused and 12% reporting sexual abuse, and a further 7% stating they had experienced both forms of violence as a child. It's important to note that more than 90% of the respondents said that the abuse they experienced as a child was never reported either to child protective services or to the police.

Another important factor that I would like to draw your attention to is, who is victimizing children? Sixty-one per cent of Canadians who reported experiencing physical violence as a child reported that the perpetrator was someone from outside the family, such as a stranger, an acquaintance, a classmate, or teachers. Females, however, were significantly more likely to have experienced abuse at the hands of a family member, that is 44% of females versus 16% of males.

Now to the next slide, turning specifically to sexual abuse experienced by girls under the age of 15, we also noted that they have experienced more severe forms of sexual abuse than boys have. For example, women were more likely to have reported being forced into unwanted sexual activities by an adult before they turned 15 than young boys were and 11% of women reported to have been touched in a sexual way by an adult. Again, this was significantly less for boys.

Now I'd like to turn to the next slide and share some information with you that is based on what is reported to the police, as this helps understand the types of violent crime involving girls and young women that come to the attention of the police. As we said before, many incidents of violence involving the youngest victims do not come to the attention of the police. When children and youth are victimized, particularly when it comes to very young and dependent children, reporting often depends on an adult bringing the offence to the attention of the police.

In 2014 alone there were about 53,000 children and youth who were victims of a violent crime, including common assault, sexual assault, and uttering threats, for example. Police report that victimization rates among girls and female youths were more than 20% higher than those of young boys and male youths.

The type of violence most often experienced by girls and young teens includes sexual offences, specifically sexual assault at level one, which is the least serious form of sexual assault, followed by physical assaults.

The next slide, again looking at police records, shows that more than 80% of sexual offences against children and youth were directed at females, especially those between the ages of 12 and 17. The distribution of age is clearly depicted on the graph here if you look at the dark blue bars. There were no specific patterns for boys. It's important to mention here that about nine out of 10 persons accused of sexually victimizing children and youth are known to the victims, and most often they are an acquaintance or family member. Accused persons were also more likely to be youths themselves.

If we look at the next slide, we look at another form of violence experienced by young women, which is dating violence. This graph shows the prevalence rates of different types of dating violence for both men and women. According to the 2014 general social survey on victimization, 10% of women who had dated during the past five years told us that they had experienced some form of dating violence. The abuse most often reported was being threatened or called names, at 8%, followed by physical violence at 4.5%, and sexual violence at 2%.

The next slide looks at criminal harassment, also commonly known as stalking. The chart illustrates the various forms of stalking and shows how men and women differ in their experiences in that regard. In the last victimization survey, 8% of Canadian women stated that they had experienced stalking that caused them to fear for their safety in the preceding five years. These types of stalking included receiving repeated obscene phone calls, having the stalker attempt to intimidate them or someone known to them, and receiving unwanted emails or texts. Women were more likely to experience stalking by a current or former intimate partner. For example, 25% of female victims of stalking reported that they were stalked by a former intimate partner.

Of note, between 2004 and 2014 we've noted a decline in the rates of self-reported stalking by 30%. But this was not the case for stalking involving the use of emails and texts, which has instead increased.

The next slide looks at cyberbullying. About 6% of Canadians 15 years of age and over who use the Internet were victims of cyberbullying in the past five years. Men and women were equally likely to report being victims of cyberbullying, however, women were more likely to report threatening or aggressive emails or texts sent to them only, while men were more likely to report that someone had used their identity to send or post embarrassing or threatening information. Not surprisingly, cyberbullying was more prevalent among younger people.

Finally, the most common cyber offence against female children and youth was child luring, followed by invitation to sexual touching.

The next slide looks at discrimination per se. Let's first say that compared to a decade ago in 2004 the proportion of both men and women perceiving discrimination on the basis of their sex has decreased by 24%.

However, gender differences still persist. In 2014 women were more likely than men to report experiencing discrimination or unfair treatment because of their sex. This was highest among women between the age of 19 and 24 years, 10% of whom reported discrimination.

Let's now turn to victimization experienced by aboriginal women, as the last section. The most recent results of the victimization survey revealed that violent victimization rates were especially high among aboriginals and also aboriginal females. For example, they recorded a sexual assault rate that was more than three times that of non-aboriginal women.

This slide talks about other risk factors associated with victimization. Victimization is linked to many social factors, as you probably know. Some of the most important we have observed were childhood maltreatment, having a mental health condition, and having experienced homelessness.

We noted that aboriginal men and women were in fact more likely to have been victims of childhood maltreatment, twice as likely to report mental health conditions, and more than twice as likely to have a history of homelessness as non-aboriginal people.

When we control for all that, and for age, gender, drinking habits, and drug use, the fact of being an aboriginal did not stand out as a characteristic linked to victimization. This means that for both aboriginal and non-aboriginal people victimization is explained by all these other factors and not by the fact of being an aboriginal. However, when it comes to women, aboriginal identity remains a contributing factor of victimization.

Lastly, I'd like to conclude on the most serious form of violence against women, homicide. Overall, the majority of homicide victims are males, but when we focused on homicide involving women we found that 16% of victims between 1980 and 2014 were aboriginal. The rate of homicides for aboriginal females is six times that of non-aboriginal females.

About nine in ten female victims of homicide were killed by someone they knew. If we look more in detail, the proportion of aboriginal female victims killed by a spouse during the period was slightly lower than for non-aboriginal female victims, but in contrast, the proportion of aboriginal female victims killed by an acquaintance was slightly higher.

Thank you very much.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Very good. This is super information. Thank you, Mr. Clermont.

Now we're going to start with our regular questioning, beginning with Ms. Damoff.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Thank you.

I'm going to be sharing my time with Ms. Nassif.

With regard to cyberbullying, I'm wondering whether there are any programs that currently educate both boys and girls from a young age, obviously age-appropriate but starting at younger ages and gradually developing the program as they move through high school, so mostly elementary and high school age.

3:55 p.m.

Senior Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada

Linda Savoie

Hitting a population of that very young age, because of the jurisdictional issues, tends to be squarely in the provincial realm of responsibility. Our programs tend to be for slightly older people. Our projects will have some impact on youth sometimes as young as 12, but our projects mostly work with youth slightly older than that, in their mid-teens and above.

It is difficult for us to have a presence in schools, which are the primary vehicle for elementary-age children.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

My concern, of course, is that by the time they're in their mid-teens, much of the education that needed to happen has not necessarily happened.

In this survey, what were the ages of the people responding? How old were the 30,000 people who responded in the survey? How old is the data related to their experiences?

April 12th, 2016 / 3:55 p.m.

Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada

Yvan Clermont

It's 15 years and over; therefore, we don't cover cyberbullying for people younger than 15 years old.

It's a sample size of about 30,000. The survey was run in 2014 as part of a cycle of the general social survey.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

What age would be the higher figure?

3:55 p.m.

Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada

Yvan Clermont

There is no limit on age.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

You could, then, be 50 years old when talking about abuse.

3:55 p.m.

Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I would suspect that the numbers would change, if I'm self-reporting on what happened to me as a teenager versus being an 18-year-old and reporting on what might have happened in the previous few years. Have there been any statistics on just the younger demographic to see what their experience is?

3:55 p.m.

Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada

Yvan Clermont

We do have those numbers.

Of course, when you're older and you look backward, there could be some telescoping factor happening about whether that had happened for real, or if it had happened before or after the age 18 or 15. I think it was 16 in that case. We do have the breakdown by age, and by age forward, and I think we can provide that to you.

Rebecca, you have some numbers there that we can probably share right away.

3:55 p.m.

Rebecca Kong Chief, Policing Services Program, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada

Yes. In terms of the persons who responded who were aged 45 to 64, 35% reported child maltreatment. In comparison, 22% of those between 15 and 44 reported child maltreatment. Those are the two age groups that we ran for the purposes of this discussion. We can give more detailed information if the committee requires it.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I'd be curious about the examples on cyberbullying, if you were to take a demographic of 15- to 22-year-olds, to find out what the prevalence is, because cyberbullying didn't exist when I was a teenager. So there would be no self-reporting on that, is that right?

3:55 p.m.

Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada

Yvan Clermont

Cyberbullying is measured as part of what has happened in the last five years. It's not before the age of 15. What we found, very broadly because I don't have the number at hand, is that being separated into two big different age groups, those below 35 years old who almost share the same prevalence of cyberbullying, and those above 35 years old. That's completely another group where the prevalence of having been victimized by cyberbullying is different, pretty much between those two age groups. We don't see much difference when we break down 17 years old and under but, of course, we don't have figures below 15 years old, so don't know what the pattern of victimization is through that channel.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Thank you.

Eva.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Eva Nassif Liberal Vimy, QC

Thank you for your presentation. Given the nature of the violence against young women and girls, in varying demographics, varying types of violence, varying factors that contribute to violence, it's difficult to find an effective way to improve the situation that will adequately meet all conditions across the country. Among some of the factors, economic and social well-being, mental and physical health, age, culture, lifestyle, all of these things need to be considered.

Do you feel that there would be any specific avenues to pursue that might be the most effective in addressing violence against women and young girls as a whole? Are there any success stories that you would share with us concerning the best and most effective way to address this?

4 p.m.

Senior Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada

Linda Savoie

Two types of projects that we funded have seemed particularly promising. Those that educate youth in terms of healthy relationships work with young girls and young boys or young men and young women and set out conversations about appropriate behaviours, appropriate ways to interact, what are healthy relationships. Those seem to have had some very good results with youth. Of course, the proxies, when you're measuring, are based on self-reported changes in behaviours. So to some degree it's going to be anecdotal and there are not that many of those projects that we have funded yet. However, a number of players across the country are funding some of these interventions with youth. Some school boards in some provinces are looking at developing those types of programs as part of the regular curriculum.

Another promising avenue is what I mentioned in the opening remarks. It's the engagement of men. The White Ribbon Campaign has been acting as a catalyst for us to create a community of practice amongst some projects that we are funding that all have as a goal to engage men and boys in the reduction of violence against women and girls. Their attempt at creating a community of practice has demonstrated that there's some very significant interest in engaging in a dialogue on this front and to take men who are not perpetrators but men who are actually bystanders and have a real interest, like the vast majority of men, in seeing reductions in violence against the women in their lives, has seemed again to give some very promising results. Again, we're dealing with proxies in terms of results. The indicators, again, are self-reported rapes, self-reported changes in attitudes and behaviours, so I think we need some longer-term examination of those and maybe more projects of this nature.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Ms. Vecchio.

4 p.m.

Justine Akman Director General, Policy and External Relations, Policy and External Relations Directorate, Status of Women Canada

Sorry. I might just add that the former iteration of FEWO did a study on best practices to reduce violence against women. It wasn't focused on the issues we're discussing today, particularly on violence that affects young women and these kinds of issues that we know a little bit less about that are the focus of this study, but there is a broad study that was done just in the last couple of years.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Karen Vecchio Conservative Elgin—Middlesex—London, ON

Just carrying on with the Status of Women, what results have you seen from engaging young people in projects to prevent violence against women on post-secondary campuses? Has violence declined at the post-secondary level? What are some of these best practices that you have seen? I'm looking at that. We've seen that in 2014 there were 22 projects funded. What was the net effect? Could you say that this has been an extremely positive change? Do we see an increase in change?

4 p.m.

Senior Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada

Linda Savoie

The campus projects ended relatively recently and again have resulted in a community of practice of past project proponents that are continuing this conversation. We're actually holding a conversation with them tomorrow to start identifying best practices that flow from their experiences delivering projects for a period of over two years. Some of the common approaches that these projects took are things such as increasing awareness and engagement, trying to involve youth from across the campus, and involving senior administrations, so there are a number of approaches that seem promising.

One thing that stuck out is the need for very specific policies that deal with sexual harassment, assault, etc., because if you are trying to deal with these forms of violence through a general policy of living well together or something of that nature, it doesn't seem to fit the bill for anybody.

There are some best practices coming out of these projects. To say there are net results in terms of reductions of violence, we would have to have proper data and a common reporting system across the country within a same university baseline and monitoring over time, which does not exist for the most part.

The province of Ontario is a trailblazer in this field and is moving leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the country and may be providing us this type of data in the very near future.