Evidence of meeting #20 for Status of Women in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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Guylaine F. Roy  Deputy Minister, Department for Women and Gender Equality

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

I call this meeting to order. Welcome, everybody, to meeting number 20 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on the Status of Women.

We are here today to consider the supplementary estimates for 2020-21 and the main estimates for 2021-22. The clerk distributed the supplementaries to the committee on February 18 and the mains on February 26.

We want to welcome the Honourable Maryam Monsef, Minister for Women and Gender Equality and Rural Economic Development, as well as senior officials from the Department for Women and Gender Equality Canada. We have Guylaine Roy, Nancy Gardiner and Lisa Smylie.

We're glad to have you here. Minister, we'll give you five minutes to make your opening remarks and then we'll go into our questions.

Please go ahead.

11 a.m.

Peterborough—Kawartha Ontario

Liberal

Maryam Monsef LiberalMinister for Women and Gender Equality

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Hello, colleagues. Bonjour. Aaaniin. As-salaam alaikum. I hope you're safe and well, and I wish the same for your loved ones.

I appreciate the opportunity to be with you today to thank you for all your important work, to speak with you about the progress that we all must work together to protect, about the path ahead, about the supplementary estimates, of course, and how we can work together to ensure that all women are able to benefit from the prosperity of this country and that those hardest hit by COVID-19 are able to land on their feet.

Let me first, though, acknowledge that a year ago on this day with the pandemic being declared, our lives changed forever. Women ended up taking the majority of the responsibilities for care for their loved ones in their chosen professions on the front lines of the fight against COVID-19. Women experienced higher rates of gender-based violence. With their kids at home and the elders they care for, increases in unpaid care responsibilities were realities for far too many. Women lost jobs faster than men, and those jobs are returning at a lower pace than men's. Without women in our economies and in our communities, Canada will not be able to achieve its full potential.

I would like to thank the Government of Canada's public service employees for all the ways they have pivoted, including our interpreters who ensure we're heard in both official languages, and their families for sharing them and for living with you as you take care of all other Canadians in this very difficult time.

My own team members, Guylaine Roy, deputy minister; Nancy Gardiner, assistant deputy minister; and the amazing, wears-many-hats Lisa Smylie, have been instrumental in moving us forward in key areas like ensuring that some 1,500-plus organizations received funds directly in their bank accounts in the early days of COVID-19 to make sure that they kept their doors open, stayed safe and offered a place of refuge for women, non-binary folks and children in their hour of need.

My team also ensured that, despite COVID-19, we were able to gather provincial and territorial ministers responsible for the status of women and get a historic agreement to move forward with Canada's first national action plan to end gender-based violence. The very same team, just a couple of days ago, hosted a two-day virtual summit which convened thousands of feminists from across the country so that their voices—the experts and their lived experiences—would shape the decisions that the federal government would be making. This is the same team that is going to be deploying, through the 2021-22 main estimates, the $125.5 million to support, through grants and contributions, the capacity building of women's organizations and LGBTQ2 organizations as well as support the national strategy to combat human trafficking and ensure survivors have what they need.

We have made progress. We stood in the House of Commons not too long ago commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Royal Commission on the Status of Women report being tabled. We now apply an intersectional gender lens to all our decisions, including the upcoming budget and our COVID-19 response. There are 100 women in the House of Commons. Senate is at parity. There are more women at the table now than ever before. Our voices matter. Our voices count. We're collecting gender disaggregated data. Tens of thousands of women have received support through the national housing strategy and have a safe and affordable roof over their heads. We've cut child poverty by some 40% through the child benefit, and the Canada child benefit has received additional supports for families directly into their bank accounts in this very difficult year that has been the pandemic.

We also have a women entrepreneurship strategy, the first of its kind, scaling up and supporting women entrepreneurs. We need them on our [Technical difficulty—Editor] employing others and contributing to the vibrancy of their communities and our country.

The universal broadband fund is not only going to connect every single household to high-speed Internet, but it's also addressing the cell gaps that create too many highways of tears in too many corners of this great country and putting at risk too many of our daughters, as we heard, in the missing and murdered indigenous women and girls testimony and report.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

I'm sorry, but that's your time, Minister. We'll catch the rest in the questions, though.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

I thought I had one more minute, but that's okay.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

No.

We're going to start with Ms. Sahota for six minutes.

March 11th, 2021 / 11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Jag Sahota Conservative Calgary Skyview, AB

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Minister, for being here.

I concur with the minister on the significance of this day, and I want to thank all the women across this country for doing what they did over the last year, and standing up with their families, taking care of their families and their neighbours.

Madam Chair, before I proceed to my question for the minister, I would like to bring to the committee members' attention, the following motion that I intend to move during committee business:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study of sexual misconduct within the Canadian Armed Forces, including a review of Operation HONOUR; that the evidence and documentation received by the committee during the first session of the 42nd parliament in the report titled "A Force for Change Creating a Culture of Equality for Women in the Canadian Armed Forces" be taken into consideration by the committee in the current session; that the following witnesses be invited to appear before the committee: the Chief of Defence Staff; the Minister of Defense; the Canadian Forces Ombudsman; Lt.-Gen. Frances Allen, the Vice-Chief of Defence Staff; the Commander of the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service; It’s Just 700; Dawn McIlmoyle-Knott; retired Master Corporal Stéphanie Raymond and retired Supreme Court Justice Marie Deschamps.

Minister, are you familiar with your mandate letter from the Prime Minister dated December 13, 2019?

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

Yes.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Jag Sahota Conservative Calgary Skyview, AB

Okay.

Minister, in paragraph 11 of the letter it says, and I quote:

We are committed to evidence-based decision-making that takes into consideration the impacts of policies on all Canadians and fully defends the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. You will apply Gender-based Analysis Plus (GBA+) in the decisions that you make.

Then in paragraph 15, bullet point two says:

Work to ensure that rigorous Gender-based Analysis Plus (GBA+) is performed on all Cabinet proposals from every department.

Recently it has been reported that two individuals were assaulted, one isolating at a government hotel and the other at home, one sexually by a quarantine screening officer.

Minister, given your requirement from the Prime Minister to ensure all policies undergo a GBA+, did you at any time highlight how these policies may keep women protected, and if so, how did the Prime Minister and cabinet respond?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

Thank you for that very important question, MP Sahota.

As a sister, an aunt, a woman, and of course as the minister responsible for the well-being of women, when those reports of sexual assault came out, I was as outraged and as disappointed as you all were. I can assure you that we are looking into the matter, and that the investigation is ongoing. We will get to the bottom—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Jag Sahota Conservative Calgary Skyview, AB

Minister, that's not my question. My question is, did you at any time highlight how these policies make—

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Sonia Sidhu Liberal Brampton South, ON

I have a point of order, Madam Chair. We cannot hear the minister's answer. Everyone has trouble hearing the minister.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Is it volume related?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Sonia Sidhu Liberal Brampton South, ON

Yes.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

I think they can adjust in the room perhaps, according to the clerk.

That's very good, sorry to interrupt.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

Is this better, Madam Chair, and Ms. Sidhu?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Sonia Sidhu Liberal Brampton South, ON

Yes.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

Yes, now it's good.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

Some of you are shaking your heads and some of you are saying yes.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

It's better now, go for it.

I'll add the time.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

We apply an intersectional gendered lens to every decision so we can better understand the impact of the decisions we're making and then mitigate them. Our intersectional gendered lens, applied through the entirety of our COVID response, has been recognized internationally as being the best. We work every day to improve that process, and if this committee has any ideas on how we can sharpen GBA+, Madam Chair, I'm all ears.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Jag Sahota Conservative Calgary Skyview, AB

Minister, on July 7, Minister Qualtrough appeared before the committee—I believe you were there as well—and she said that you did not apply a GBA+ analysis to all the programs and policies.

Are you now starting to apply it?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

Madam Chair, we've applied the GBA+ to our entire COVID response. I was here for that committee meeting. Minister Qualtrough was referring to the CERB, which we rolled out within a matter of days. We weren't able to do the formal GBA+ on that particular measure right away, but you can be sure that we did so as soon as it was feasible. Our first priority was to get the money into people's bank accounts so that they could follow public health orders and stay safe and not worry about putting food on the table and putting a roof over their heads.

We can all agree that poverty is sexist and CERB would have helped women disproportionately—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Jag Sahota Conservative Calgary Skyview, AB

Minister Monsef, I'm going to move on to the next question since you're not really answering my first question.

You have a mandate from the Prime Minister to Canadians that you will ensure that all cabinet proposals will undergo a GBA+. Canadian women are fed up with this government's continued talk and no action. Because of your inaction, you placed these two women in harm's way, because you did not do your job.

Minister, today we are reviewing estimates for your department. Why should we approve them when you consistently fail Canadian women?

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Maryam Monsef Liberal Peterborough—Kawartha, ON

Madam Chair, I disagree entirely with the premise of that question.

While it is true that gender-based violence is far too prevalent in this country, no government has done more than our government has to provide supports to front lines, to acknowledge it in legislation and to support particularly racialized and indigenous community organizations in their efforts to prevent and address it.

If my honourable colleague wants to vote against funding for human-trafficking supports, or LGBTQ2 organizations, or women who are working on the front lines of the shadow pandemic—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Marilyn Gladu

I'm sorry, but that's your time. Now we're going to Monsieur Serré.

You have the floor for six minutes.