Evidence of meeting #18 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Bonnie Charron

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean.

7:05 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

And I'm a lawyer as well.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I understand. There are four or five of them here. I haven't heard from Andrew yet, but I'm sure I will.

But where do you see...? I understand what you're saying, and I read it in conjunction with clause 6. I understand that totally, but what I don't see is where... It says “shall”; it simply says “shall”. In English, that means that's their obligation; they have to. It doesn't say “shall, in conjunction with the minister”. It says the council “shall”. So unless I'm... I apologize, but...

7:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

No. I am not anglophone, but…

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Just a moment, please.

7:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Yes, that's it. I am going to tell him.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

The amendment is not changing any of the first two clauses.

7:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

That's right!

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

The amendment is adding a third clause about holding public consultations. The beginning of the clause is, “The Minister, in cooperation with the Council, shall”.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Yes, that's right!

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

And “oversee”--

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Man, that was a really good argument for a few minutes.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

That's one; “choose a suitable area” is two; and the amendment is to “hold public consultations and take into account the recommendations of the public”. That's the amendment.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

And the public consultations?

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Yes.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Where are the “public consultations”?

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

It's (c) in your amendments--

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I understand, but where in the original document...?

7:05 p.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Okay.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

That's the amendment. It's in (c).

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

And there's no public consultation in the original bill?

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

No.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

So is that not outside the scope of the original bill, since there were no public consultations at all? I don't understand.

7:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

It's not changing the outcome of the bill. It's just adding pieces to it that will actually suggest they take into account the recommendations of the public when making any decisions.

7:05 p.m.

Liberal

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

It's additional information, not contrary information.