Evidence of meeting #21 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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A voice
G-2.
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Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
Thank you to all those people who passed me G-2. I really appreciate it.
This is in relation to clause 2, which deals with the issue of public land, because as the members will recollect, the land itself that we had indicated as a committee we wanted this monument to be on, and that was identified to us by participants, would be on NCC land. We have nothing within the bill that means that, and as a result, I would propose as a committee that we deal with the definition of “public land” to reflect that it will be located on NCC land.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
I'm just getting some advice here and then I'll advise committee.
Does everyone understand the motion or the amendment that was put forward?
Monsieur Laframboise.
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Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
I would like some clarification, Mr. Chair. In the LIB-1 amendment, it says the following:
(b) choose a suitable area of public land in the National Capital Region for the Monument to be located; and
I would like the law clerk or the committee clerk to tell us the exact wording that we adopted in clause 6 regarding the land chosen.
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Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
Just in relation to that, LIB-1, which amended clause 6, actually states that “Council, shall”, and it talks about “choose a suitable area of public land in the National Capital Region”. As such, I think all we need to do with the definitions section is either reflect the same thing the Liberal motion did or else just delete it entirely, unless I misunderstand.
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Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
We need to know the wording that was chosen when clause 6 was dealt with.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
We had adopted “choose a suitable area of public land in the National Capital Region for the Monument to be located”.
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Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
If we go with the term “public land”, we should define it. The definition in clause 2, which the parliamentary secretary wants to amend, is “an area of land owned by the Crown that is accessible to the public at all times”. The idea is to choose an area of public land in the national capital region that is owned by the Crown and accessible to the public at all times. I do not think we should amend that clause. Until someone can convince me otherwise, I think we should leave it as is. In clause 6, we approved the idea of a suitable area of public land being chosen in the national capital region. Therefore, it needs to be an area of public land, not private land that would not be accessible to the public.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Before we have any further discussion, I would again rule that the proposed amendment is substantive and therefore inadmissible.
Mr. Jean.
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Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I'm not going to challenge you, Mr. Chair, because I don't want to, bluntly, but I just want to understand—
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Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I just want to make sure for the record, which clearly will be kept in relation to this for future generations of interpreters, that public land, in the definitions section of clause 2, will coexist with clause 6. As such, then, there does not need to be an amendment of either one. So we don't have to have the challenge and we don't have to have the ruling, in my mind.
Do you understand?
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
So we will vote on clause 2 as amended.
(Clause 2 as amended agreed to on division)
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Liberal
Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON
I was just looking for Tim Uppal's name, and it doesn't appear anywhere.
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Some hon. members
Agreed.