Evidence of meeting #119 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was shipping.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Natasha Rascanin  Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport
Marc-Yves Bertin  Director General, Marine Policy, Department of Transport
Julie Gascon  Director General, Operations, Canadian Coast Guard, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Marc Sanderson  Acting Director General, National Strategies, Canadian Coast Guard, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Matt Jeneroux  Edmonton Riverbend, CPC
Rear-Admiral  Retired) Peter Ellis (Executive Director, Clear Seas Centre for Responsible Marine Shipping
Sonia Simard  Director, Legislative and Environmental Affairs, Shipping Federation of Canada
Robert Lewis-Manning  President, Chamber of Shipping

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

That's mostly governmentese you're speaking. Let's put that into something that the folks listening can understand.

November 6th, 2018 / 9:20 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

In the case of Yamachiche, which Mr. Aubin was talking about, I'm told that example dealt with a particular pilot not following a specific order during a flooding situation. The interim orders that are being proposed to be enacted, which the minister would have, would be a tool that could be used in that situation to action something specific that is otherwise unforeseen, such as a weather event or whales moving into an area where they have never been in the past. That is a new additional flexibility for the minister, to be able to act in those very unforeseen contexts.

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Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

With respect to the process under way, the budget implementation act, is the inclusion of all of this in this bill somehow necessary to actually get the money allocated to make things happen? Is that why it's here?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

Sorry, the money allocated...? Are you talking about—

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Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

Why are these provisions in this bill? What function is being served by having these provisions in this bill?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

They are important commitments under the oceans protection plan.

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Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

Do they need money?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

For the ship-source oil pollution fund to have unlimited authority, yes.

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Liberal

Ken Hardie Liberal Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC

Okay.

Thank you.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Next is Mr. Liepert.

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Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Ms. Rascanin, you are the assistant deputy minister. Is that correct?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

I've had the privilege in the past of delivering a budget at the provincial level, and I know from experience that departments are given somewhere in the range of 45 to 60 days to submit their proposals for the budget.

Can you tell me when you were given direction by the Department of Finance to have your submissions in for this particular document?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

Well, this is budget 2018. The budget process usually starts in the fall.

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Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

I'm talking about this particular legislation.

This particular document has to go to print. That can take up to a month, or more.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

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Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

What was the deadline you were given to have your submission in for this particular document?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

We were proceeding on developing—

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Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

I want to know a specific date.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

I don't have a specific—

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Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

I presume there was a memo sent by the Minister of Finance to your department indicating when you had to have your submissions in for this particular document to be included in it.

You're the assistant deputy minister. You should know that.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

Respectfully, there was no memo from the Minister of Finance.

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Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Okay, so was this actually something that the Department of Transport wanted in here? Is this something that maybe showed up from the Department of the Environment, and the Department of Transport had to go along with it?

9:20 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Transformation, Department of Transport

Natasha Rascanin

The decisions around legislative amendments are approved by cabinet and looked at.

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Conservative

Ron Liepert Conservative Calgary Signal Hill, AB

Were they recommended by your department?