Evidence of meeting #55 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was safety.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Aaron Speer  Vice-President, Flight Operations, Bradley Air Services Limited, First Air
Edward McKeogh  President, Canadian Aviation Safety Consultants
Greg McConnell  National Chair, Canadian Federal Pilots Association
Jean-Marie Richard  Aviation Safety Consultant, As an Individual
Dan Adamus  Canada Board President, Air Line Pilots Association, International

12:55 p.m.

Aviation Safety Consultant, As an Individual

Jean-Marie Richard

As far as safety goes, I do believe that aviation in Canada is safe.

Regarding the inquiry commission proposed by Judge Moshansky, I personally do not agree.

As for the ICAO audit, it would be absolutely justified to get one.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Robert Aubin NDP Trois-Rivières, QC

Thank you.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Luc Berthold

Thank you very much.

Mr. Adamus, do you have anything to add in a few words?

12:55 p.m.

Capt Dan Adamus

Canada has one of the safest airline systems in the world, but we can always improve. I am aware that the actual hands-on inspections are way down, and we're relying more on safety management systems. SMS does work when it's done properly. However, with pressures put on airlines on the economic side, SMS is one of the first things to go, and unfortunately it doesn't work in all airlines. So it certainly could improve.

As far as an inquiry goes—

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Luc Berthold

Thank you very much. Mr. Adamus.

Unfortunately, that's all the time we have.

Mr. Iacono, you have enough time left to ask one question before we wrap up this hour-long meeting.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The question is for all three witnesses.

According to you, what is the most important issue for aviation safety in Canada at this time?

1 p.m.

Capt Dan Adamus

We'll say improving the flight and duty time regulations. It's something we've been looking at for years. Canada is way behind the rest of the world. This started back in 2010. This is 2017. If we go ahead with the recommendations that the department has put forward on the implementation time frame, we're looking at another year for the large carriers and another three years on top of that for the small. We have to get moving on this, and one year for all.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Thank you.

Mr. Richard, go ahead.

1 p.m.

Aviation Safety Consultant, As an Individual

Jean-Marie Richard

It would be Transport Canada not reducing its oversight resources. Those resources should actually increase.

1 p.m.

Capt Greg McConnell

I believe the most important thing the inspectors can do for Transport Canada is to exercise the minister's delegation. In order to exercise the minister's delegation, the civil aviation inspectors have to be fully trained in order to exercise that mandate and to bring back confidence for the flying public and the safety in this country. I believe that is important. That's what Minister Garneau is charged with. I believe that Minister Garneau would really like to work, as any transport minister should, towards a safer aviation system.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Angelo Iacono Liberal Alfred-Pellan, QC

Okay.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Luc Berthold

Thank you, Mr. Iacono.

I want to thank everyone for joining us today and answering the committee's questions.

Thank you, respected colleagues.

The meeting is now adjourned.