Evidence of meeting #70 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was passengers.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Helena Borges  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Transport
Melissa Fisher  Associate Deputy Commissioner, Mergers Directorate, Competition Bureau
Ryan Greer  Director, Transportation and Infrastructure Policy, Canadian Chamber of Commerce
Mark Schaan  Director General, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch, Strategic Policy Sector, Department of Industry
Anthony Durocher  Deputy Commissioner, Monopolistic Practices Directorate, Competition Bureau
Douglas Lavin  Vice-President, Members and External Relations, North America, International Air Transport Association
Glenn Priestley  Executive Director, Northern Air Transport Association
Allistair Elliott  International Representative, Canada, Canadian Federation of Musicians
John McKenna  President and Chief Executive Officer, Air Transport Association of Canada
Francine Schutzman  President, Local 180, Musicians Association of Ottawa-Gatineau, Canadian Federation of Musicians
Bernard Bussières  Vice President, Legal Affairs and Corporate Secretary, Transat A.T. Inc., Air Transat
Neil Parry  Vice-President, Service Delivery, Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
Jeff Walker  Chief Strategy Officer, National Office, Canadian Automobile Association
Massimo Bergamini  President and Chief Executive Officer, National Airlines Council of Canada
George Petsikas  Senior Director, Government and Industry Affairs, Transat A.T. Inc., Air Transat
Jacob Charbonneau  President and Chief Executive Officer, Flight Claim Canada Inc.
Daniel-Robert Gooch  President, Canadian Airports Council
Gábor Lukács  Founder and Coordinator, Air Passenger Rights
Meriem Amir  Legal Advisor, Flight Claim Canada

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President and Chief Executive Officer, Flight Claim Canada Inc.

Jacob Charbonneau

Personally, I think so.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

All right. We've completed our first round. Does anyone have a question that they have not been able to get sufficient answers to, on either side of the table?

Mr. Sikand has indicated he had a question. Is it one question?

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Liberal

Gagan Sikand Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

It was various questions, but I think they've all been answered.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

They've all been answered.

Go ahead, Mr. Fraser.

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Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

I have just one question to wrap up, and perhaps it's a good time to say thank you to our witnesses and to my colleagues on both sides of the table. This has been a valuable and interesting few days, and I really do appreciate everyone's work and look forward to our further deliberations.

Dr. Lukács, chief amongst your complaints seems to be the fact, in essence, that a lot of people are experiencing irritants and not having a remedy, if I can say there's one overarching theme. Do you think Bill C-49, particularly the requirement that would have airlines adopt clear and concise descriptions of how someone can enforce remedies, is going to improve the situation over the status quo?

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Founder and Coordinator, Air Passenger Rights

Gábor Lukács

Unfortunately not.

The way I would articulate it is that Bill C-49 is going to double the amount of compensation that passengers are not going to receive.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much.

Mr. Chong.

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Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Just to clarify, so I can plan out my week, we're going to meet next week on Tuesday for future committee business. How much time should we budget for that? Are we meeting for an hour or two hours? Are we going to book two hours?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Well, you can book two hours. Hopefully, we'll be finished in 15 minutes. That would be the preferable, but it might take a little longer than that.

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Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

That's great.

I have another question. This is the first time I've been on committee in this Parliament, so I don't know what the practice is for committee business. I know that when I first started as a parliamentarian 13 years ago nothing was in camera except for the discussion of potential witnesses, in order to ensure that nobody besmirched the reputation of a witness. In the last Parliament, I think all committee business was in camera for most of the committees. What are we going to do next Tuesday?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Why don't you answer that as the clerk, officially?

Technically, you're automatically in camera, but it's up to the committee. It depends on the issues we're dealing with. Quite often, we try to do things in public. Otherwise it's in camera, but it's totally up to the committee as to how they decide to do it.

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Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Thank you for clarifying that.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

You're welcome.

Mr. Badawey.

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Liberal

Vance Badawey Liberal Niagara Centre, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

By the way, Michael, welcome. It's great to have you on board.

The rule of thumb is that we try to stay in public session and stay out of in camera, but there is obviously a lot of sensitivity. When it's a negotiation or an issue of sensitivity that can affect an individual, or things of that nature, we'll go into closed session, but it's very rare. From our side, and even your side, I know that in the past we've always preferred to stay in open session.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

To our witnesses, thank you so much. You should feel good. We managed to get pretty much all of the witnesses who wanted to appear before us to appear, and that included the four of you. Thank you very much for the information today.

We will now adjourn the meeting. That's the end of four days. I have to say thank you to all our support staff, our clerk and everyone, and to our members.