Evidence of meeting #121 for Veterans Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was recommendations.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Craig L. Dalton  Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman
Sharon Squire  Deputy Veterans Ombudsman and Executive Director, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

4:20 p.m.

Deputy Veterans Ombudsman and Executive Director, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Sharon Squire

There is a maximum.

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Conservative

Cathay Wagantall Conservative Yorkton—Melville, SK

A maximum that a veteran can receive....

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Deputy Veterans Ombudsman and Executive Director, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Sharon Squire

It's based on your level of disability.

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

It's based on a percentage.

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Conservative

Cathay Wagantall Conservative Yorkton—Melville, SK

Yes, I understand that, but when we look at it, in some cases, remember, it's based on how many years you've served and how many limbs you've lost to determine what your benefits are going to be by the time of pension and whatnot. For anyone at any stage, usually it's the ones who are the boots on the ground that face the most opportunity to have a complete life change due to injury, yet they are lower down in the ranks.

4:20 p.m.

Deputy Veterans Ombudsman and Executive Director, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Sharon Squire

In this case, the disability award, though, is based on your percentage of disability and not your years of service.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Neil Ellis

Thank you.

Mr. Samson.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Thank you very much, both of you, for being here today.

Mr. Dalton, you're in your new position, and of course you're in the learning curve. We'd like to know where you're at in that curve, so I'll throw a couple of quick questions to you.

I'm still puzzled—I mean, it's going to take a while for me to come out of it—as to why the former government eliminated the ID cards. I heard very often how important that was to veterans. We've finally brought it back. Can you give me any comments on what you've heard since we brought it back?

4:20 p.m.

Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Craig L. Dalton

I have not received any comments since I've been in the office on the veterans' ID cards.

I will defer to Sharon to see if she has heard anything, but I haven't.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Phil McColeman Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

I have a point of order.

There are some things I will accept as matters of, I suppose, perspective or understanding politically, but on the characterization that we cancelled a card, we didn't cancel a card. The former government never cancelled a card.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB

That's debatable.

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Conservative

Phil McColeman Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

I just point that out.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Neil Ellis

Mr. Samson.

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Thank you.

Mr. Dalton, you mentioned how veterans had mentioned how important it was and they would like to have it. Is that correct?

4:20 p.m.

Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Craig L. Dalton

Yes. That's based on previous work the office had done.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

The need was strongly indicated there and you're saying you haven't heard anything since so we're assuming things are running nicely.

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Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Craig L. Dalton

That's right.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

My colleague mentioned as well the pension for life and quoted Mr. Cousineau. I know him very well, of course, and he's a very important individual in the veterans community who has helped me and others understand some of the challenges. He did indicate that the Parliamentary Budget Officer's report seemed to indicate that up to 3% to 5% of most injured veterans could maybe receive that.

Are you aware that the Prime Minister a week and a half ago in the House of Commons said that no single veteran would lose? Are you aware of that?

4:25 p.m.

Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Craig L. Dalton

Yes. It would be very encouraging to see that reflected in program changes going forward.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Very good, the work is being done.

I heard a lot when I was there on marriage after 60. Have you heard about this? Many veterans expressed to me the need to make changes to the rule that was in place, which was very difficult—no benefits, pension, etc., to a spouse or partner and whatnot.

Are you aware that in the last budget it was dealt with and money has been put forward on that front?

4:25 p.m.

Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Craig L. Dalton

We noted in the last budget that there had been money allocated to marriage after 60. What we don't know yet is how that money will be distributed to veterans or survivors and what the program might look like. We have had concern expressed to us around what that program might look like.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

Good. We will wait for your suggestions.

You talked about reservist veterans and how you wanted to focus on them somewhat. Are you aware that our government added reservist veterans under the education and training program, the $40,000 and $80,000? Are you aware that now the reservists are included in there?

4:25 p.m.

Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

What do you think of that? Do you think that's a really good decision?

4:25 p.m.

Veterans Ombudsman, Office of the Veterans Ombudsman

Craig L. Dalton

One of the complaints we received from reservists was related to how their time served in qualifying for that benefit is computed. It's one of the areas we're going to look at.