House of Commons Hansard #82 of the 37th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was money.

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Firearms ProgramOral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

The Speaker

The hon. member for Vancouver East.

Aboriginal AffairsOral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

NDP

Libby Davies NDP Vancouver East, BC

Mr. Speaker, the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs has just concluded four weeks of hearings across Canada, where there is overwhelming opposition to the first nations governance act.

When it comes to its own practice of governance, the government is clearly anti-democratic in ramming through this flawed legislation. Will the minister today commit to go back to the drawing board, abide by the democratic principle of respect for first nations and hear their opposition to the bill? Will he go back to the drawing board because there is so much opposition, overwhelmingly so?

Aboriginal AffairsOral Question Period

2:55 p.m.

Kenora—Rainy River Ontario

Liberal

Bob Nault LiberalMinister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Mr. Speaker, I do not think we have to take any lessons from the NDP about good governance. I have had the opportunity to see Bob Rae in action.

I can say, though, that what we are doing is looking very closely at wanting to improve the lives of first nations citizens. How we improve the lives of first nations citizens is by putting in the fundamentals of good governance.

The committee has just concluded its hearings. It is now looking at the discussions and the amendments that possibly could be made. We did send the bill to committee before second reading to give committee members plenty of time to look at it in detail. We hope that they will come back with a report that will make the lives of first nations--

Aboriginal AffairsOral Question Period

3 p.m.

The Speaker

The right hon. member for Calgary Centre.

IraqOral Question Period

3 p.m.

Progressive Conservative

Joe Clark Progressive Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Mr. Speaker, I have a short question for the Minister of National Defence.

On Thursday, March 20, the government voted in favour of a motion that read, and I quote:

That this House call upon the government not to participate in the military intervention initiated by the United States in Iraq.

Was the Minister of National Defence aware at the time of the vote that members of the Canadian Forces currently on exchange with foreign units could find themselves in front line combat situations?

IraqOral Question Period

3 p.m.

Markham Ontario

Liberal

John McCallum LiberalMinister of National Defence

Mr. Speaker, the right hon. member I am sure is aware that while the motion he describes was indeed passed by the House, there was an amendment to that motion which was defeated by a massive four to one margin, a motion calling upon the government to bring back the ships and bring back the exchange officers.

Contrary to what we have been hearing from that corner of the House, the government would, if anything, be in contempt of Parliament if we did what the NDP is suggesting and brought back our ships and exchange soldiers, which of course we are not proposing to do.

Presence in GalleryOral Question Period

3 p.m.

The Speaker

I would like to draw to the attention of all hon. members the presence in the gallery of the Honourable Neil Andrew, M.P., Speaker of the House of Representatives of Australia, and his accompanying delegation.

Presence in GalleryOral Question Period

3 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear.

Presence in GalleryOral Question Period

3 p.m.

The Speaker

I would also like to draw to the attention of hon. members the presence in the gallery of the Honourable Stan Hagen, Minister of Sustainable Resource Management and Minister of Agriculture, Food and Fisheries of the Government of British Columbia.

Presence in GalleryOral Question Period

3 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear.

The House resumed from March 28 consideration of the motion that Bill C-314, an act to amend the Canada Transportation Act, be read the second time and referred to a committee.

Canada Transportation ActPrivate Members' Business

3 p.m.

The Speaker

It being 3:03 p.m., the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion at second reading stage of Bill C-314 under private members' business.

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

Canada Transportation ActPrivate Members' Business

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

I declare the motion lost.

The House resumed from March 31 consideration of the motion that Bill C-20, an act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be read the second time and referred to a committee, and of the motion that the question be now put.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

The House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the previous question at the second reading stage of Bill C-20.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Marlene Catterall Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Mr. Speaker, I believe that you would find consent in the House that those who voted on the previous motion be recorded as voting on the motion now before the House, with Liberal members voting yes.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

Is there unanimous consent to proceed in this way?

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

Canadian Alliance

Dale Johnston Canadian Alliance Wetaskiwin, AB

Mr. Speaker, Canadian Alliance members here today will vote no to this motion.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Beauport—Montmorency—Côte-De- Beaupré—Île-D'Orléans, QC

Mr. Speaker, the members of the Bloc Quebecois are voting against this motion.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Speaker, the members of the NDP are voting against this motion.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:15 p.m.

Progressive Conservative

Gerald Keddy Progressive Conservative South Shore, NS

Mr. Speaker, the members of the Progressive Conservative Party will be voting no to this motion.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

Jean Guy Carignan Liberal Québec East, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am voting in favour of this motion.

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:15 p.m.

Bloc

Pierrette Venne Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am voting in favour of this motion.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Criminal CodeGovernment Orders

3:15 p.m.

The Speaker

I wish to inform the House that because the last vote was done as a private member's vote, it is going to take some time to do a calculation, the exact numbers of yeas and nays on the vote, but I am advised by the Table that the motion would carry given the number of votes. Accordingly, I declare the motion, that the question be now put, carried.

Hon. members will be able to read all the figures in tomorrow's Journals. It is fascinating stuff.

The next question is on the motion at the second reading stage of Bill C-20.