House of Commons Hansard #17 of the 37th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was ethical.

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NDP

Lorne Nystrom NDP Regina—Qu'Appelle, SK

Mr. Speaker, in the spirit of the Prime Minister's zeal for democratic reform and democratic deficit, I want to begin by asking the House if there is unanimous consent to make this motion votable.

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The Deputy Speaker

Does the hon. member for Regina—Qu'Appelle have the unanimous consent of the House to make this motion votable.

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Some hon. members

No.

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NDP

Lorne Nystrom NDP Regina—Qu'Appelle, SK

Mr. Speaker, so much for the democratic deficit and the will to reform this House by the Liberal Party. The least we can do is make motions in the House debatable and votable at the same.

We are calling for an ethical screen for the Canada pension plan. I wish the members across the way would stop being so conservative and look more progressive. It was bad enough when the Conservatives were conservative.

We have two good examples of this. We have an anti-smoking campaign in the country, and the member for Souris—Moose Mountain would agree with me on this, and yet we do not direct the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board not to invest in companies that are involved with tobacco. We have a contradiction in the House. So why is that member more conservative than the Conservatives? I cannot understand this.

Then we have landmines, another good example--Canada was the leader on that and I praise Lloyd Axworthy, a former foreign affairs minister, for his leadership role on the international landmines treaty--yet there is no directive at all to the CPP Investment Board not to invest in companies that produce landmines.

I can understand why the member from Etobicoke is starting to hang his head in shame when we point out these contradictions to what he just said.

I would hope that some members in the Liberal Party will come to their senses and say that they will look at taking the first timid steps toward having an ethical screen on some of the obvious things where the CPP Investment Board contradicts what the Parliament of Canada has passed.

Why should we on one hand say no smoking and no to landmines and, on the other hand, say yes to smoking and yes to landmines, in terms of the investments by the CPP Investment Board? That is like being both progressive and conservative at the same time. It does not make any sense. We should take a look at this idea before the House today. That is why I wanted this motion to be votable, so members could stand up and be counted.

We need a lot of changes when it comes to the CPP Investment Board. I proposed a motion in the finance committee years ago that the board should consist of members who represent the workers and the retirees. It is their pensions and yet there is nobody on the board who represents them, and there should be. That is only fair and democratic.

These are a couple of ideas that the board and the government should look at seriously.

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The Deputy Speaker

It being 5:30 p.m., it is my duty to inform the House that proceedings on the motion have expired.

The House resumed from February 19 consideration of the motion.

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The Deputy Speaker

Pursuant to the order made on Thursday, February 19, 2004, the House will now proceed to the deferred recorded division on the motion by the hon. member for Saint-Jean relating to the business of supply.

Call in the members.

After the taking of the vote:

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The Speaker

The hon. member for Simcoe—Grey has apparently voted twice. Could he clarify for the Chair which way he voted?

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Liberal

Paul Bonwick Liberal Simcoe—Grey, ON

Mr. Speaker, I extend my apologies. I wanted to be shown as voting against the motion, but apparently I misunderstood the Chair in getting directions to stand up and vote against. Please have my vote counted against.

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

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The Speaker

I declare the motion lost.

The House resumed from February 20 consideration of Bill C-15, an act to implement treaties and administrative arrangements on the international transfer of persons found guilty of criminal offences, as reported (without amendment) from the committee.

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The Speaker

The House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion at report stage of Bill C-15.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Mr. Speaker, I believe you would find unanimous consent for the members having voted on the previous motion to be recorded as voting on the motion now before the House, with the Liberals members voting yes, with the exception of those wishing to vote otherwise. I would like to add the names of the members for Outremont, Burlington and Pierrefonds—Dollard.

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The Speaker

Is there unanimous consent to proceed in this fashion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Canadian Alliance

Dale Johnston Canadian Alliance Wetaskiwin, AB

Mr. Speaker, Conservative members here tonight will vote no on this motion.

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Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Beauport—Montmorency—Côte-De- Beaupré—Île-D'Orléans, QC

Mr. Speaker, the members of the Bloc Quebecois will vote no on this motion.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Speaker, the members of the NDP will be voting in favour of this motion.

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Progressive Conservative

John Herron Progressive Conservative Fundy Royal, NB

Mr. Speaker, I will be voting in favour of the motion.

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Independent

John Bryden Independent Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot, ON

Mr. Speaker, yes.

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Canadian Alliance

Dale Johnston Canadian Alliance Wetaskiwin, AB

Mr. Speaker, I notice that the member for Port Moody—Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam has left the House. He would be taken off that vote.

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Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

Mr. Speaker, I wish to ensure that I am recorded as voting with the government on this motion.

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The Speaker

All Liberal members have been indicated as voting yes on the motion unless they indicate otherwise. I do not think we need to go through a lot of points of order.

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Independent

John Bryden Independent Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Aldershot, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am unfamiliar with my new status in life and I think I confused the clerk. I have voted twice. I would like my vote to be recorded as no on this, as I voted the first time.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)