House of Commons Hansard #19 of the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was money.

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Comments of Member for Timmins--James BayPoints of OrderOral Questions

3:10 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Mr. Speaker, yesterday in the House when the member for Timmins—James Bay rose to ask his question of the minister, he in fact was quoting from documents from Indian and northern affairs, part of which was that there were no real issues in opposition party ridings. When he raised the point that perhaps decisions were being made along partisan lines, he was again quoting from Indian and northern affairs documents. I would be happy to table this particular information, if I have unanimous consent to do so.

Comments of Member for Timmins--James BayPoints of OrderOral Questions

3:15 p.m.

Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre Saskatchewan

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski ConservativeParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, today the member for Timmins—James Bay quite clearly accused the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development of being a pork-barrel minister endangering the health and safety of children. That is exactly what he said. He accused the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development of doing just that.

He was trying to undermine the integrity of a minister of the Crown. He is doing so, as we all know, for nothing more than grandstanding purposes. It is unconscionable. The level of discourse in this House should be far above the level of discourse exhibited by that member.

I would ask you, Mr. Speaker, to ask him to withdraw his remarks, unequivocally.

Comments of Member for Timmins--James BayPoints of OrderOral Questions

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

Does the hon. member for Nanaimo—Cowichan have the unanimous consent of the House to table the documents she referred to?

Comments of Member for Timmins--James BayPoints of OrderOral Questions

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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An hon. member

No.

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

There is no consent.

Private Member's Bill C-241Points of OrderOral Questions

3:15 p.m.

Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre Saskatchewan

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski ConservativeParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, on February 25, 2009, you made a statement with regard to the management of private members' business. In particular, you raised concerns about five bills which, in your view, appear to impinge on the financial prerogative of the Crown. One of the bills you mentioned was Bill C-241.

I am therefore rising on a point of order regarding Bill C-241, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act (removal of waiting period). Without commenting on the merits of the bill, I submit that Bill C-241 contains provisions that would change the purposes of the Employment Insurance Act, which would require new spending and would therefore require a royal recommendation. Bill C-241 proposes to repeal the two-week waiting period before the start of employment insurance benefits following an interruption of earnings.

The removal of the waiting period would change the purposes of the Employment Insurance Act by creating an additional payment of two weeks for claimants who do not use the full entitlement. The Department of Human Resources and Social Development estimates that the removal of the waiting period could cost as much as $1 billion per year. Precedents clearly establish that bills that change the purposes of the Employment Insurance Act and require new or additional government spending for employment insurance benefits must be accompanied by a royal recommendation.

On December 8, 2004, the Speaker ruled in the case of Bill C-278, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act (improvement of the employment insurance system) that:

Inasmuch as section 54 of the Constitution, 1867, and Standing Order 79 prohibit the adoption of any bill appropriating public revenues without a royal recommendation, the same must apply to bills authorizing increased spending of public revenues. Bills mandating new or additional public spending must be seen as the equivalent of bills effecting an appropriation.

The removal of the waiting period would require the expenditure of funds in a manner not authorized under the Employment Insurance Act. This is supported by the Speaker's ruling on November 6, 2006 on Bill C-269, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act (improvement of the employment insurance system), which states:

—all of these elements would indeed require expenditures from the EI Account which are not currently authorized....

Such increased spending is not covered by the terms of any existing appropriation....New purposes must be accompanied by a new royal recommendation.

These precedents apply to Bill C-241 which would change the purposes of the Employment Insurance Act by requiring new spending. Therefore, Bill C-241 must, in our view, also be accompanied by a royal recommendation.

Private Member's Bill C-241Points of OrderOral Questions

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

I thank the hon. parliamentary secretary for his assistance in this matter. Of course, we will get back to the House. There may be other submissions on the point before I make a final ruling on it.

The hon. member for Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont is rising on a point of order.

Industry, Science and TechnologyCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont Alberta

Conservative

Mike Lake ConservativeParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry

Mr. Speaker, there have been consultations among the parties and I believe you will find consent for the following motion. I move:

That the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology create a subcommittee whose membership will be composed of five (5) members, with two (2) from the Conservative Party, one (1) from the Liberal Party, one (1) from the Bloc Québécois, and one (1) from the New Democratic Party, and that the Chair be from the Conservative Party; that the sub-committee have all the powers and authority of the Standing Committee, to undertake a study of the crisis faced by certain industrial sectors in Canada such as aerospace, energy, forestry, high-tech, and manufacturing, with the understanding that any legislation referred to the full committee take precedence over the work of the sub-committee, that the sub-committee not meet at the same time as the full committee, that the sub-committee report its findings and recommendations to the main committee, and that the main committee present the report to the House within ten sitting days.

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3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

Does the hon. member have the unanimous consent of the House to propose this motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

The House has heard the terms of the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

(Motion agreed to)

The hon. member for Québec on a point of order.

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Bloc

Christiane Gagnon Bloc Québec, QC

Mr. Speaker, in response to the point of order raised by the hon. member for—

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

Sorry. There is a sequence. The hon. member for Guelph is rising on another motion.

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3:20 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Mr. Speaker, discussions have been continuing among the parties. If you were to now seek it, I think you would find unanimous consent for the following motion, which I would indicate to the Speaker is being seconded by the member for Willowdale. I move:

That the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology create a subcommittee whose membership will be composed of five (5) members consisting of two Conservative members, one Liberal member, one Bloc Québécois member and one NDP member, named after the usual consultations with the Whips, with all the powers and authority of the Standing Committee, to undertake a study of the crisis faced by the automotive industry in Canada, with the understanding that any legislation referred to the full committee take precedence over the work of the sub-committee, that the sub-committee not meet at the same time as the full committee, and that the sub-committee report its findings and recommendations to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology by March 21st, 2009.

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3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

Does the hon. member for Guelph have the unanimous consent of the House to propose this motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

The House has heard the terms of the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

(Motion agreed to)

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

The hon. member for Québec on a point of order.

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Bloc

Christiane Gagnon Bloc Québec, QC

Mr. Speaker, further to the point of order raised by the hon. member for Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, I would like to say that our House leader will respond shortly.

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3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken

I imagine that there will be many responses to this and I indicated that I would be waiting for them.

The hon. member for Trinity—Spadina on a point of order.