Madam Speaker, it was interesting to listen to some of the facts that were just mentioned.
I have a very simple question for the hon. member. He cited an Ipsos Reid poll and said that poll showed that 33% of Canadians wanted to abolish the Senate. Then I believe he said that somewhere in the vicinity of 49% wanted to reform the Senate. Is that not exactly what the Conservative Party wants to do?
We want to reform the Senate to elect senators.
I doubt it, but people might even elect an NDP senator, and then the NDP members would not have to bark so loud about it.