House of Commons Hansard #106 of the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was munitions.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Barry Devolin

It is my duty to interrupt the proceedings at this time and put forthwith the question on the motion now before the House.

The question is on the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

No.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Barry Devolin

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

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Some hon. members

Yea.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Barry Devolin

All those opposed will please say nay.

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Some hon. members

Nay.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Barry Devolin

In my opinion the yeas have it.

And five or more members having risen:

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Vote #220

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Bruce Stanton

I declare the motion carried.

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NDP

Nycole Turmel NDP Hull—Aylmer, QC

Mr. Speaker, this is the first time we have faced this situation, so I just want to be sure of the Speaker's ruling when members arrive in the House and may or may not have heard the question. The hon. member for Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound arrived after you began your presentation.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Bruce Stanton

The hon. member for Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound.

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Conservative

Larry Miller Conservative Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, ON

Mr. Speaker, bonjour.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Bruce Stanton

I sense that there is great enthusiasm for what the hon. member has to say. The hon. member.

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Conservative

Larry Miller Conservative Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, ON

Mr. Speaker, I did come in while you were reading the question. I am at your mercy. Your ruling will count.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Bruce Stanton

Perhaps I missed the opening part of the member's comments while I was still standing. I just wonder if the hon. member could verify that in fact he heard the question.

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Conservative

Larry Miller Conservative Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, ON

What I was verifying, Mr. Speaker, is that I did not come in after you read the question; I came in while you were reading it, so I will leave it up to you.

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An hon. member

Did you hear it?

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Conservative

Larry Miller Conservative Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, ON

I did not hear the first few words, just to be honest, Mr. Speaker.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Bruce Stanton

As is normally the practice of the House, we take hon. members at their word. The hon. member acknowledges that he did hear the question, and so his vote will be counted.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Speaker, as much as I enjoy the member for Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound and his eloquent French, I think there is a question of consistency here. We had discussion earlier in the week about every member being in the House to hear the entire question. If what you are saying, Mr. Speaker, is that a member only has to hear part of the question, that is quite a different interpretation than we have heard in the past.

The member for Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound was honest that he came in partway through the question, so the issue really is if—

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Bruce Stanton

Order. The hon. member for Burnaby—New Westminster has the floor.

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6:15 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Speaker, I think the government is proving why it is not going to be re-elected in 2015. Canadians see that and they do not like it.

What we have heard in the past is that members have to be present for the entire question. I want to clarify that if the Speaker is now saying that if members are in the House for part of the question, that is quite a different situation, and I would submit that would lead to a lot of confusion around these kinds of votes.

I am seeking clarification. If a member is present for only part of the question, does that mean that he or she is eligible to vote? That is different from what we have heard in the past.

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Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Bruce Stanton

I thank the hon. member for his intervention on the point.

That is actually not what I said. I said that the hon. member verified that he did hear and understood the question and we took him at his word, as has been the convention for hon. members in questions of this nature.

Having said that, I appreciate the hon. member's comments. I will take a closer look at how the sequence of events unfolded and get back to the House, if necessary.