I hate to interrupt, but I just want to remind the hon. members that debate is taking place, and I am kind of having a hard time. Maybe it is my age. My hearing is not as good as it used to be. I am having a hard time hearing the hon. member for Lethbridge.
The hon. member for Lethbridge. The rest of the members could maybe whisper a bit more softly or take the discussion into the lobby.