House of Commons Hansard #3 of the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was chair.

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Afghan Minority CommunitiesPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Speaker, the third petition draws the attention of the House to the challenges being faced by Afghanistan's religious minorities, particularly in this case the Sikh and Hindu communities in Afghanistan. It calls for the foreign affairs minister to continually raise this issue with his Afghan counterparts. It also calls for the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship to use the powers granted to him to create a special program to help persecuted minorities in Afghanistan be sponsored directly to Canada.

Human RightsPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Speaker, the fourth petition is to highlight the plight of Pakistani Christian asylum seekers in Thailand. It asks the Government of Canada to raise this matter with the Government of Thailand. It also seeks to address how the issue of refugee status conferred by the UNHCR can be a particular challenge for refugees in this situation, because the conferral of that status is dependent on the good graces of the country in which the application is made.

Human Organ TraffickingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Mr. Speaker, as it is my first time being recognized in the House, I want to thank the good people of Peace River— Westlock for putting their faith in me to represent them in Ottawa once again. I would like to congratulate you, Mr. Speaker, on your election to the Speaker. I know this will be a prosperous Parliament because of that.

I too would like to present a petition today calling for the passage of Bill C-350 and Bill S-240. These bills were introduced in the last Parliament. They passed unanimously through the last Parliament, but were unable to be declared into law. We look forward to reintroducing them and having them pass swiftly through this Parliament.

Human Organ TraffickingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Chris d'Entremont Conservative West Nova, NS

Mr. Speaker, this being my first time standing in this House, I want to thank the electors of West Nova for the honour that they have bestowed upon me. I look forward to addressing them more appropriately in a speech or reply.

Forced organ harvesting and trafficking is a growing global problem that requires urgent action. I am pleased to table a petition from Canadians who are looking for this Parliament to finally take action on forced organ harvesting and to make it a criminal offence to go abroad and receive an organ taken without consent.

JusticePetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present an electronic petition that was signed by over 1,100 Canadians from coast to coast, from British Columbia right through to Newfoundland and Labrador and up to the territories. I would like to thank Lesslie Askin, a local constituent, who is the instigator behind this petition.

The petitioners, as residents and citizens of Canada, call upon the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons to completely waive all solicitor-client privilege and cabinet confidentiality so that the member for Vancouver Granville may speak openly about the SNC-Lavalin matter, and launch a public inquiry under Canada's Inquiries Act into whether the Prime Minister's Office or the Prime Minister politically interfered in the court case against SNC-Lavalin.

Human Organ TraffickingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Marc Dalton Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC

Mr. Speaker, I am tabling a petition to support Bill C-350 and Bill S-240 from the 42nd Parliament. Petitioners want the 43rd Parliament to be one that finally takes action on forced organ harvesting and passes these bills.

Human Organ TraffickingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

Mr. Speaker, I would like to present a petition in support of Bill C-350 and Bill S-240 from the previous Parliament. These bills received unanimous consent in both Houses, but did not pass in identical form and thus the law was not changed.

Petitioners hope to see this Parliament be the one that finally takes action on forced organ harvesting.

Wild SalmonPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:20 p.m.

Green

Paul Manly Green Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, I am presenting a petition today to save the wild salmon, and specifically, to act on the precautionary principle and immediately implement all 75 recommendations made by Justice Cohen to save the Pacific salmon by removing Fisheries and Oceans Canada's mandate to promote salmon farming, to remove salmon farming from migratory routes and to look at prohibiting net-pen farming in British Columbia.

Human Organ TraffickingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

Mr. Speaker, I also would take the opportunity, this being my first time to rise in this House, to thank the good people of Saskatoon—University. I have a speech later this week that will dive into thanking a number of people, but I do appreciate the support.

I also would like to join my colleagues in presenting a petition on the forced organ harvesting taking place around the world. This petition seeks to combat global organ trafficking. The petitioners want the government to make it a criminal offence to receive an organ without their consent.

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

3:20 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that all questions be allowed to stand at this time.

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

3:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Anthony Rota

Is that agreed?

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

3:20 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The House resumed consideration of the motion for an address to Her Excellency the Governor General in reply to her speech at the opening of the session, of the amendment and of the amendment to the amendment.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:20 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Mr. Speaker, I was talking about health transfer payments. I explained in detail that the provinces are dependent on funds from Ottawa, and they have been since the beginning of Confederation. Federal government transfers flow to the provinces so that they can do their job. Over time, however, transfers have continued to diminish so that the government can download the deficits to the provinces, as we saw in the nineties, or overload them with standards and conditions to go back to the basic notion that centralizing power was what the Fathers of Confederation intended and that the goal of federal spending is precisely to accomplish that almost-solemn mission.

There was no mention of the single income tax return in the Speech from the Throne. On May 15, 2018, the National Assembly unanimously voted in favour of a single income tax return that the Quebec government alone would oversee and administer. I know the motion was passed unanimously because I moved it myself. At the time, the Prime Minister quipped that the National Assembly rarely agrees unanimously on anything, but we saw it happen with the single income tax return. Was that mentioned? No, it was not.

There is some hope, however, since our Conservative colleagues believe in the same cause. If the NDP or the Liberals were to help us, we could create a single tax return administered by Quebec, much to the delight of the Quebec National Assembly and Quebeckers. A recent survey shows that 65% of Quebeckers support a single tax return administered by Quebec. The only study that has been done estimates annual savings of $425 million. Not only will this save money, but it will also save time, since Quebeckers will be able to do their taxes faster.

The Liberal government and the NDP always use the argument of job losses in the Jonquière and Shawinigan regions, and they say those losses would be drastic. Yes, jobs would be lost. Is that an argument for axing the plan? No. According to the Minister of National Revenue, 5,300 jobs in Quebec involve administering Quebeckers' income taxes for the federal government. Transferring those responsibilities to the Quebec government would create 2,332 jobs doing the same work for the Quebec government. The Quebec government could easily ensure that those jobs remain in Shawinigan and Jonquière. The other employees could work on tackling tax evasion or managing web giants like GAFA. Those jobs would pay for themselves.

As there is a shortage of workers in the federal public service, those people could easily go work for the federal government. Given that 4% of public servants retire every year and that it will take four years to transfer the federal government's responsibilities to the Quebec government, there will be more than 800 jobs to be filled. Clearly, there will be no job losses.

Which Liberal or NDP members will join the Quebec consensus that there will be no jobs lost?

Our consensus is that the public service will save $287 million and that Quebeckers who file a single tax return will save time. Who can argue with that?

The Bloc Québécois is expecting a positive response. We are ready to have discussions to promote this great idea.

We know that Quebec is not responsible for managing its representation abroad.

We would have liked the document to make a clear statement on ending the loopholes in supply management. We would like Quebec farmers to no longer be used as a bargaining chip to promote the auto industry in Ontario, or the beef industry in the west. We would like these people to be respected and to never again be directly attacked or have money taken out of their pockets, because they work very hard and deserve to enjoy the fruits of their labour.

I would reiterate in closing that I began my speech with a bit of history. Something has changed since the creation of the Canadian Confederation. At the time, Canada's motto was “from sea to sea”. Unfortunately, now it is “drill, baby, drill”.

Sadly, in western Canada, the economy today is concentrated on a single sector. It is not diversified enough. We have to help the west diversify. What people need to realize is that oil dependency is not just an issue for western Canada. It is an issue for the banks as well. Around the world, five of the 12 banks that are currently investing the most in oil are Canadian. The Canadian economy is heavily involved in oil.

There is one party here that says we need to produce more oil. It has the advantage of being honest and saying what it really thinks. There is another party that plays around with definitions and contradictions in an attempt to put us to sleep. It says it supports this, but not too much. It does not mention oil, the “elephant in the room”, as my colleague put it earlier, in the throne speech. It talks about climate change, whereas the oil issue goes in the complete opposite direction.

We need a clear-eyed understanding. If we want to undertake an energy transition, we simply cannot promote oil. Some people are saying that we should change the Constitution, that it is an old model that does not work well and is of no use to us anymore. I explained the problems with that earlier.

I want the House to know that the Bloc Québécois and Quebeckers do not want to play this game anymore. To paraphrase Jean Garon, changing a comma in the Canadian Constitution would be about as easy as scratching my forehead with my front teeth. We quit.

What will the Bloc do? The Bloc is here to stand up for farmers, to defend Quebec's territory so that no pipelines are built on it without our permission. The Bloc is here to stand up for our cultural community, which is being attacked by web giants. It will stand up for the Davie shipyard and its extraordinary workers, who have demonstrated the quality of their work time and time again. We will defend the energy transition to ensure that our young people have a healthy future in an extraordinary environment.

That is the mission of the Bloc Québécois. We will do that work on behalf of Quebec. We will work hard until, one day, Quebec becomes a country.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:30 p.m.

Liberal

Kody Blois Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

Mr. Speaker, in response to the member opposite's comment on supply management, I am from King—Hants. We have the largest agricultural concentration east of Montreal with many dairy farmers and poultry farmers in our area.

I want the member opposite to know that I support farmers and I support our supply-managed farmers as well. As for the assumption that our government is somehow betraying farmers, I want them to remember that our government was forced into the deal with NAFTA. We maintained the integrity of a supply-managed system and we have also compensated farmers.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:30 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the member for his fine words because he is saying good things about farmers. We will always agree on that.

He said that he is prepared to work together. I have no problem with that, on the contrary. The Bloc Québécois is prepared to collaborate. This could be the beginning of a healthy co-operation. We will eventually introduce a bill that will stop the undermining of the quota system once and for all and make sure that the government respects our agricultural identity in the future.

If that is what you want, then know that the Bloc Québécois will stand by your side and ensure that the mistakes of the past, which cost farmers dearly, do not happen again.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Anthony Rota

Before we continue, I would like to remind members that they must address their comments to the Chair and not directly to their colleagues. I recommend that they speak in the third person rather than using “you”.

The hon. member for Louis-Saint-Laurent.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to rise with a question for my colleague. In years past, I had the pleasure of serving with him in the National Assembly.

In response to the governing party's question, my colleague talked about Quebec's dairy industry. I would like to remind him that, four and a half years ago, when the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership was finalized, the Conservative government included over $4 billion in the agreement to compensate farmers. We did not wait four and a half years until negotiations were complete. We promised to compensate them, we did it, and we budgeted for it. We recognize that supply management took a hit, but there would not have been an agreement without that. Also, we attached the funding when we made the announcement.

I have a question for my Bloc Québécois colleague from La Prairie, if I am not mistaken. I do not want to mix up the ridings because, in the past, I would have called him the member for Saint-Jean.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:30 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

I was the member for Sanguinet.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Mr. Speaker, I beg my colleague's pardon. My memory failed me. This white hair is here for a reason. I might miss a few things, but it will not take me long to get back on track.

Could the member tell us whether he supported the Conservative government's approach, which was to immediately enshrine the necessary compensation in any agreements we signed? That is what we did.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:30 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Mr. Speaker, thank you for your comment. I apologize for breaking the rules of the House.

Indeed, I have crossed paths with my colleague in other circles. He said that the Conservatives attached a sum of money to the trade agreement. I hope he does a better job attaching his toque to his head when it is windy outside, because if not, he will surely lose it. If they had attached a sum, the other party would not have removed it. We would not be talking about it today.

What I am saying is that the best way to prevent money that has been put in from being taken out is simply to stop putting farmers' necks on the line in international trade negotiations, even when acting in good faith. I do not mean to say my colleagues were not acting in good faith, but that is what happened to farmers, and it must never happen again.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Mr. Speaker, I congratulate my colleague, the Bloc Québécois House leader, on his first speech in the House. It was a great, eloquent speech. I appreciated his comments. We agree on a number of points.

One point is the transition to clean energy. These changes are necessary in British Columbia, much like in Quebec and in the rest of Canada. We also agree on supply management. I am very happy to learn that the Bloc Québécois will continue the work started by Ruth Ellen Brosseau, Guy Caron, Karine Trudel, Robert Aubin and Brigitte Sansoucy, who fought to protect supply management. This is truly needed in Quebec and in the rest of Canada.

My question for him has to do with the single tax return. Naturally, we meet with federal public servants. I met some in Jonquière and in Shawinigan, and many of them are worried about their future, their jobs and the impact on the system. There are benefits, but of course, there are also drawbacks.

My question is very simple. Did the Bloc Québécois House leader ever meet with federal public servants in Jonquière and Shawinigan to talk about what would happen next with this file?

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:35 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague, the leader of the NDP, for the question.

I will tell him the truth. I just started sitting in the House. I have worked on the single tax return file, and I am quite familiar with it. Did I talk to those people? At the time, it was not my responsibility, because it was not my job. However, if the hon. member met with people who work in Shawinigan or Jonquière and are concerned, I propose that we meet with them together and work on finding solutions with them. I am sure that the Government of Quebec only expects us to find smart solutions and make the single tax return a reality.

I am sure these people can understand that this will not result in any job losses. If we act in good faith, there is a way to resolve this matter without punishing anyone. If my colleague reaches out to me, I will return the favour and propose that we go together to visit the people who are directly affected by this file.

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Mr. Speaker, we have definitely heard a lot about the province of Quebec, but all the other parties are here to unite the country. It is very important that we have a united country. We also heard a lot of criticism of the oil sector.

Before I ask my colleague a question, I would first like to welcome him and congratulate him on his election.

What will he do for Canada's unity during his time in the House?

Resumption of debate on Address in ReplySpeech From The Throne

3:35 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for her question and congratulations.

What will I do for Canadian unity? That is a good question. I will not answer it, but instead, I will tell her what I will do for Quebec. Quebeckers elected 32 Bloc Québécois members. From the outset, we made it clear that our job is to serve Quebec alone. That does not mean that we will disagree with our colleagues from the other parties. It means that we will sit down with them. I have no ill will towards anyone here. If there are ways to improve the lot of westerners and we can contribute in some way, we will do so.

That said, we are representatives of the people of Quebec. We are not bad boys and girls. We want to sit down with our colleagues to find solutions, and if they want to sit down with us to improve Quebec's lot, they are welcome to join the discussion.