House of Commons Hansard #408 of the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was communities.

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Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the government's response to 13 petitions.

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present, in both official languages, the 29th report of the Standing Committee on Finance in relation to Bill S-6, an act to implement the convention between Canada and the Republic of Madagascar for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income. The committee has studied the bill and has agreed to report it without amendment.

While I am on my feet, I move:

That the House do now proceed to orders of the day.

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

The question is on the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

No.

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Some hon. members

Yea.

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

All those opposed will please say nay.

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Some hon. members

Nay.

FinanceCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

In my opinion the nays have it.

And five or more members having risen:

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Vote #1305

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

I declare the motion carried.

The House proceeded to the consideration of Bill C-91, An Act respecting Indigenous languages, as reported (with amendments) from the committee.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

There being no motions at report stage, the House will now proceed, without debate, to the putting of the question of the motion to concur in the bill at report stage.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Honoré-Mercier Québec

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez LiberalMinister of Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism

moved that Bill C-91, An Act respecting Indigenous languages, as amended, be concurred in.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

The question is on the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

No.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Some hon. members

Yea.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

All those opposed will please say nay.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Some hon. members

Nay.

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

In my opinion the yeas have it.

And five or more members having risen:

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Vote #1306

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

I declare the motion carried.

When shall the bill be read a third time? By leave, now?

Indigenous Languages ActGovernment Orders

11:20 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

Statements by Minister of National Revenue—Speaker's RulingPrivilegeGovernment Orders

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Geoff Regan

I am now prepared to rule on the question of privilege raised on April 10, 2019, by the hon. member for Chilliwack—Hope concerning allegedly misleading statements by the Minister of National Revenue.

When raising his question of privilege, the member for Chilliwack—Hope explained that the Minister of National Revenue had told the House more than once that the Canada Revenue Agency had hired 1,300 new auditors since 2016 but that certain Quebec newspapers reported this to be inaccurate, stating that the true figure was just 192. The member went on to explain how the minister's statements breached privileges since they were knowingly and deliberately misleading and made with the intent to deceive the House, in his view.

The Parliamentary Secretary to the Government House Leader countered that the minister’s statements, inside and outside the House, were in fact accurate and consistent. The parliamentary secretary cited the auditors hired from 2016 through 2018 to justify the minister’s claim that 1,300 auditors were hired by the Canada Revenue Agency. From his perspective, the parliamentary secretary claimed that this was a dispute as to the facts rather than a legitimate question of privilege.

By now, members are only too aware that, in most instances, when members are accused of misleading the House, the Chair has ruled that it is a dispute as to the facts. Given the gravity of such a charge, the Chair must be able to establish with certainty that the statements made were undoubtedly false, misleading and intended to misinform the House.

Members must recognize that what may appear to be misleading and false is often a matter of perception subject to context and interpretation, factors that are inherent to debate. On this, Speaker Milliken stated on December 6, 2004, at page 2319 of Debates:

Disagreements about facts and how the facts should be interpreted form the basis of debate in this place.

Consequently, absent any compelling evidence to the contrary, I do not find that a prima facie question of privilege has been established in this case.

I thank all hon. members for their attention.