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Justice committee  Good morning, everyone. Thank you for allowing me to be here and the CBA to be here. I'd like to start off by saying that although the CBA doesn't support passage of the bill in its current form, there are a number of proposed amendments that are positive and ultimately ought to

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  Thank you for those comments. I'm not necessarily saying it needs to be redefined completely, but it needs to be narrowed. It needs to be constricted. If you have a definition of a violent offence that effectively is five years or more, you've captured—except for all of the offe

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  Thank you very much, Ms. Leslie. I'll be very brief. Mr. Ménard's question was directed towards serious offences and violent offences. One of the things I talked about is on serious offences being five years or more and the implications with respect to the new bail regime that

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  This also dovetails back to Mr. Murphy's question, so I want to make sure I answer both of them at the same time, because I think they're similar. Right now there's a nice balance that is struck. If a young person, for example, commits a very violent crime, and is out on the lam

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  I'm not aware of any. I don't think the CBA section is aware of any.

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  To be quite frank and to be fair, I think that's maybe a little bit outside the scope of our submission, so I don't know if we should really be going there, if we're the best authority to go there.

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  The fact is, whether you're talking about the YCJA or you're talking about the Criminal Code generally, the long-term protection of the public is a principle that's now built into the YCJA. And I should stop to say, of course, that the CBA section that I'm here representing.... I

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  Of course you have to approach everything on a case-by-case basis, so I can't really answer for Mr. Fournel-Laberge's incident, and I can't say what the conditions were of the place where he was versus those of other places, or what kinds of programs were available to him. Based

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  There are two things about longer sentences. The first thing is pre-trial detention, which is apparently on the rise, based on some of the StatsCan figures that were released. With pre-trial detention, for example, you don't have access to any of the programs you would need as re

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  Why? I don't think that there is a rehabilitative aspect, necessarily. When you have a young person getting one, what are they doing? They are going to go into a jail or a facility. They're going to associate potentially with people who are hardened criminals and have committed c

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  Absolutely. I'm not saying that there are no exceptions to the rule.

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  I don't know that. What were you referring to there?

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  I don't happen to have that in front of me, so it's very difficult for me to comment on exactly that. What I have is “Youth custody and community services in Canada, 2008/2009”. Is that what you're referring to, or is it something different?

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman

Justice committee  I don't have that. I don't know what everything else around it is and I don't know the scope of the study, so it's very hard for me to comment on it.

June 3rd, 2010Committee meeting

Scott Bergman