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Transport committee  Good afternoon dear members of the committee. My name is Nancy Bérard-Brown. I am speaking to you on behalf of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers. I sent copies of our brief and of our presentation to the committee, as well as copies of the comments we submitted to

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  Yes. In conclusion, CAPP does not support the moratorium because it is not based on science. Recognizing the intent of the government to proceed, CAPP seeks to eliminate the confusion of overlapping definitions of persistent and crude oil, encourage further evaluation of the rel

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  Thank you for the opportunity to clarify. What CAPP is seeking at this point is twofold. There needs to be some consideration as to whether or not condensate does belong on the list of persistent oils. Also, as I indicated a bit earlier, what we want to ensure is that as a resul

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  If we look at the most recent forecasts that have been prepared by the International Energy Agency out of Paris, there is growing global demand for oil. The purpose of producers, and our desire to reach tidewater is to be able to satisfy those markets. In response to your earlie

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  I just want to clarify that the reconsideration we've asked for is for condensate, which comes from the production of natural gas. It is not a heavy oil or comparable to a dilbit.

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  That is a very excellent question. As I mentioned, there was a significant gap identified. The Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers and the Canadian Energy Pipeline Association, a few years ago, commissioned the Royal Society of Canada to conduct a study and to explore wh

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  It will include crude oil that currently moves through North America, so it will include some light, heavy, medium, conventional, unconventional, bunker C fuel, and condensate.

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  Yes, dilbit, synbit, and dilsynbit.

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  I'm sorry. For clarity, I did not refer to a dry material. What I was trying to elaborate is that there is a distinction between a persistent and a non-persistent oil, and currently, the definition used refers to the distillation curve. What I was saying is that there are other f

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  I would concur. I think that there needs to be more scientific evidence. There needs to be an identification of the gaps and maybe potential mitigative measures in order to address the need. I think what you referred to a bit earlier is the exclusion zone. I'd just like to poin

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  It is separate and distinct. I know from my dealings that there is sometimes confusion. As I mentioned earlier, too, there was very brief consultation, and I think in light of the impact that it may have on our ability as producers of both natural gas and oil to reach tidewater

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown

Transport committee  I may not be able to offer some specifics. The danger that I foresee is that when you're making a policy or a significant action that is not based on science, there's a danger of creating a precedent. There's also I think a danger in terms of reputation. Canada is party to intern

October 26th, 2017Committee meeting

Nancy Bérard-Brown