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Public Safety committee  They are completely different mandates. If you're a member of the RCMP in Alberta or anywhere we provide uniformed policing, even federal policing in Ontario or Quebec, you're subject to three separate oversight bodies. One is the statutory regime of civilian oversight, such as

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  If you were to ask my staff, I'm a big proponent of data. I love data and gathering data, because it tells a story. Unfortunately, in the RCMP, we haven't been consistent with gathering data, whether it be race-based data or data on anything. The only thing we seem to be good a

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  I don't know if changes to the legislation can improve the process. The current model as it is uses the RCMP to investigate the RCMP, which is police investigating police no matter how you slice it. Even if we download it to the Saskatoon PD to do the CRCC complaints, it's still

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  Yes, that's by the RCMP.

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  I would agree that many—probably about 25%—of these can be resolved informally fairly quickly, with just a phone call or an explanation about—

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  It is, yes.

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  No. When I speak about 60,000 person-hours to investigate those 1,500 complaints as a ballpark, that is just the initial 30-day investigation and returning it to the CRCC and the complainant. Should there be more required, that's not included. If we are talking about only the st

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  I would say yes.

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  I think, as tabled, there is still work to be done. That is why we are making some recommendations. In our submission, we have sections within the RCMP Act presently. When the commission receives a complaint, it expressly states that it will be downloaded to the RCMP to investiga

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  Well, I don't think a member of the public.... We should encourage the wide scope of abilities to file complaints, whether it be online, at your local detachment, even at your local border crossing or through the mail to the CRCC. However, once that complaint is received, how it

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  I don't think that's enough. If you look at the processes that exist today, obviously, once a complaint is received and sent for investigation, there's a general ballpark figure of about 60,000 man-hours, or person-hours, that is used to investigate them. Most of those are done

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  Yes. They're below the rank of inspector.

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  Sort of. For example, SiRT in Nova Scotia and ASIRT in Alberta do the hybrid model. They will second serving police officers to work for a time period alongside civilians. The IIO in B.C. is a fully independent civilian body with no police officers in it.

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  Yes, they're provincially funded.

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé

Public Safety committee  That's 100% correct.

June 2nd, 2023Committee meeting

Brian Sauvé