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December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  In China, relationship is part of competition: being there with your government. They don't just do sales, they do relationships, and sales are inside the relationship. Being there with your government gives you a huge advantage. Can you forever sell stuff that's more expensive?

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  Yes. There are still quite a few improvements that can be done. We know the government has been thinking about air regulations. We have challenged Environment Canada, and I'll do it more publicly now, to let us do a voluntary regime, which we would negotiate with environmental gr

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  Well, we were in a very difficult relationship with Greenpeace, the David Suzuki Foundation, Canadian Parks and Wilderness....all the environmental groups that are now part of our agreement.

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  If you ask Greenpeace, they will say, “Yes, we are radicals and proud of it.”

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  I'm not in a position to do that because I haven't done a study of them, and they're not as visible to us because we never asked for them. We'd be very happy to be consulted by Natural Resources if it is doing a review, and to be part of the process, but it would be irresponsible

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  I just want to be respectful of the people doing it.

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  For a while, there was very little upgrading of the capital stock, because everybody was trying to preserve cash. So at a time when prices were below the cost of production, you either shut down or you went through your savings. Either way, you weren't bringing in investment for

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  Huge. One of the sawmill owners told me that a lot of his competitors are only in business because they haven't done the math yet. It's....

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  Well, it varies by company. Some of the companies figured out a little earlier that pulp and paper and lumber are not going to be enough and got into the bioenergy and biomaterials game earlier, but now even the ones who were a bit slower are looking at it. By province, I can't

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  I don't think you should fund them any more than you should fund us. What we need help with is (a) the science, so we're using government science as a basis of agreement, and (b) the solution space, convening the process. Working with maps and doing the actual land use planning i

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  There are no big cash investments right now, so what we're doing is shutting down less pulp. There's no big capital. We haven't got that kind of big cash infusion, and for a pulp mill you're talking upwards of $800 million. But that's certainly where the investments for moderniza

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  I'll answer from two perspectives, one from the forest industry's perspective. We can't speak for others, but I will talk more largely as a nation. From a forest industry perspective, our good name is very important to us. Conducting ourselves in a way that tells the world they

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  Yes, I would agree, of course. I was quite clear: most of the industry hates the softwood lumber agreement. It is just that it's it's a lot better than not having it. Yes, we're suffering from it. We don't believe in it. We believe in free trade. Even when we were winning cas

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar

Natural Resources committee  It's their marketplace. We're the seller, they're the buyer. They control the rules under which they let our stuff in. You talked about the cost of housing. We used to mobilize the U.S. housing lobby by saying this was causing house prices to go up. But the distribution of power

December 12th, 2011Committee meeting

Avrim Lazar