Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. I, along with my colleagues at the Climate Action Network, welcome this opportunity to talk to you about the contribution emissions trading can make to the cost-effective reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. Let me begin by restating what everyone here s

Environment committee  We started in 1998, going into the convention.

Environment committee  We had consultations leading up to the negotiation of the convention itself. Those started in 1988. There was a whole series of what they called the international negotiating committee meetings that definitely were well in advance of 1992.

Environment committee  Absolutely.

Environment committee  You should have called me first.

Environment committee  That's not a Liberal plan. That was done by the Climate Action Network in 1996.

Environment committee  No, that's really an old plan, and nobody has it today. I can share it with you for historical interest, but the plan was actually analyzed in cooperation with the Department of Natural Resources Canada. It was a very good effort.

Environment committee  No, I don't.

Environment committee  At that time, I don't think we set them at a provincial level, but I could go back and look. The analysis rolled out to certain provincial reductions. Obviously it shouldn't come as any surprise to you where the real reductions occur. They occur in the electricity sector and in t

Environment committee  No, actually, and I can explain that very easily. Kathryn did interview me, and she has corrected her paper. Sage is funded by foundations, just as a number of environment groups are in Canada. I was funded to develop a climate plan for Canada, which I did do. It has nothing to

Environment committee  Hold on, I'm not finished. I published my paper, with the IISD in fact, and that paper went into--

Environment committee  Well, do you want the answer?

Environment committee  I provided a paper that went into the system, and I was consulted on some of the measures that were in there, as were other groups, such as Pembina and so on. Environment Canada and Natural Resources Canada developed Project Green. That is a government plan and not anything to do

Environment committee  I had proposed the clean energy trust, which was similar to what I'd created with the green municipal fund. Samy Watson, the deputy minister at Environment Canada, created the climate fund, which does not in fact represent the proposal I made. I was proposing a carbon bank for Ca

Environment committee  No, and I understand that--