Canadian Heritage committee  I think there are two very distinct issues. One is the mandate of the CRTC. The other one is the mandate of the task force. The task force, which is headed by Michel, is dealing with one tool that we have, to procure and to induce Canadian content, which is the fund. We have all

Canadian Heritage committee  You raise two issues that, for me, are very discrete. One is the future of television in this country, on which we have just finished a review. Later this year, we're going start a review on BDUs and specialty services, and that's where we address this globally. On top of this

Canadian Heritage committee  No, it was something was mandated to us by the minister. The minister, under the Broadcasting Act, has the authority to ask the commission to study any area and to render a report. That's what we did; we studied it, had public hearings, and basically presented something that is a

Canadian Heritage committee  Correct.

Canadian Heritage committee  Absolutely. And other Canadians will see it, as it will be on our website.

Canadian Heritage committee  I would hope that's the case. As I say, if you feel it is required, or helpful, or necessary--whatever--to hold those hearings, you will call us and presumably will call a lot of people who appeared before the task force to form your own views and make your own recommendations.

Canadian Heritage committee  Not per se. I just think one of the issues driving it is the funding. So far, the fund is directed to the production of broadcasting; the question is whether it should also include production for new media. That's clearly an issue that has to be addressed.

Canadian Heritage committee  I wouldn't have undertaken it if I didn't think there was a possibility of success. Now, as for the degree of success, that will be for others to judge. Of course you never have a totally clean solution. There will always be some people who feel that some parts have not been addr

Canadian Heritage committee  You're talking about two different things. When the CRTC holds public hearings, it deals with commercial information, you're quite right. And that's data. We're really talking about data of companies and their procedures. Here what we are really trying to establish is how does t

Canadian Heritage committee  I don't agree with that at all, number one. Two, this is not something that the minister is mandated to meet. This is my responsibility, as regulator, to enforce. I do—

Canadian Heritage committee  Exactly. She's echoing the law. She's pointing out that the enforcement of the regulation is the responsibility of the CRTC, and I will do that. We're independent, and we do it in accordance with what we do.... We do not take instructions from anybody on the enforcement.

Canadian Heritage committee  Mr. Angus, you are mixing up two different things. One is, clearly, the CRTC, under statute, takes direction from the minister. The minister can give directions. They have to be public. They're going to be very well debated, etc. Those are directions, policy lines. For instance,

Canadian Heritage committee  First of all, I agree with you, it's not a pleasant situation, and one that I hope will not be repeated. Secondly, I think I can say frankly that we learned a lesson. To the extent there are payment obligations, they should be clear-cut and mandatory: there should be no ifs, an

Canadian Heritage committee  This is not the first time I have been a regulator. And in regulation you really cannot do it on a confrontational basis; you need the active cooperation of the people you are regulating. You are not going to have a regulation where you constantly enforce; that is ineffective. Re

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you very much. I am delighted to hear you report the attitude of Shaw and Vidéotron. That will of course be very helpful to Michel in his work.