Agriculture committee  Overall in my presentation I really didn't get to say what my summary was.

Agriculture committee  I guess I'm probably the only one who isn't on a per diem here today, so--

Agriculture committee  I want to make one final comment, if I may.

Agriculture committee  Excuse me, I certainly was interrupted a lot more than other people, and I was distracted from what I was--

Agriculture committee  No, but that was about the only time.

Agriculture committee  Would you welcome the studies and presentations that I made to the committee?

Agriculture committee  Yes, I just want to clarify. Mr. Friesen said the NFU and the Canadian Federation of Agriculture agreed that if we have Cargill and somebody else competing for our product.... We in the National Farmers Union don't see it as particularly positive that an American transnational co

Agriculture committee  Excuse me, I--

Agriculture committee  Okay. I just want to finish then--

Agriculture committee  I do, because I'm having difficulty figuring out what I said that is in dispute here. In Manitoba, there's a 30¢-per-litre subsidy on ethanol; it's commonly known. On an energy equivalent basis, that works out to about a 45¢-per-litre subsidy. I didn't make any comments about bio

Agriculture committee  Biofuels are highly dependent on the fossil fuels, and you cannot call something that dependent on fossil fuels alternate energy. The studies I cited.... There's almost a new one a week stating the problems with ethanol. Paul Crutzen of the OECD did a study. He's a Nobel prize-

Agriculture committee  On the subsidy part of it, the Manitoba government provides a 20¢-per-litre subsidy and the federal government 10¢, so that's 30¢. That is how my analysis comes to $1 million per job per year. If we're going to spend that money, there are a lot better places to spend it in term

Agriculture committee  Ethanol and biofuels are--

Agriculture committee  No, she asked me the question. I'm sorry.

Agriculture committee  Yes, we've got...[Inaudible--Editor]