Citizenship and Immigration committee  If I may, I'd like to answer your question. Board members may be removed for criminality. There are other provisions under which they may be removed from the board by a vote of other board members.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely. They have that power. They've written about it. They know they have the power. But what's been going on over the last few years, sir, is a fight between the law society and CSIC. They're playing little games, political games. You're used to little games, I'm sure. I

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Basically, the law society now realizes that CSIC is here to stay, and they want to put an end to this little feud. They know they have the power and they've decided to exercise it. If you read the IRB statement of last Friday, you'll see that's precisely what they're saying.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Do you mean since CSIC or prior to CSIC?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  You have the famous Harry Kopyto. You remember him, sir.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Madam Chow will remember Harry Kopyto.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Absolutely. He was quite a famous case.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Actually, he was providing any kind of service you wanted to pay for.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I don't believe so, but there are a lot in the stream. There are a lot of people being investigated at this moment. Once again, back to the IRB, they themselves are starting this week to look at that.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, sir. There's no doubt that the government should be doing it, but the government is acting.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  There's no doubt that the government is acting through the IRB. A duty of the law society, by statute, is to prosecute people who are practising law without a licence, but they're not doing it.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  No, it's not, with the exception—

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Madam, I suppose, in reality, the fair and truthful answer to that is that neither organization knows if they show up. There's no registration for the law society. There is registration for CSIC. Once someone registers.... Someone could come in here today and just skip out. How

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm not a member of the board, but I am directly affected. I agree with you. I think we should have the same provisions as any organization in this regard. We should be looking at that.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  One has to remember that there is no distinction between a CSIC member and a lawyer, a barrister, a solicitor, or a public notary. The only thing that a CSIC member cannot do, with respect to applying the law to immigration, is go to Federal Court.