Information & Ethics committee  The situation is that people can currently withdraw. The change in the legislation is going to allow the detention of that person and an interrogation in order to determine why they did that, which actually defeats the purpose of the withdrawal in the first place.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  I think having suspicion would come into play in a number of different directions. They suspect it exists. They suspect it relates to wrongdoing. They suspect they might be able to find it. The example they gave is you crossed the border or you came into an airport and you had a

Information & Ethics committee  Sorry. Are you referring to Bill C-21 or Bill C-23, the preclearance act?

Information & Ethics committee  If you're voting on it, there may not be a whole lot that we can offer. The element that I focused on in the comments and also in the submission relates to what seemed to be an expansion of CBSA and general Canadian government powers with respect to Canadians who were exiting th

Information & Ethics committee  I think suspected is just simply that: they believe it might exist. The issue is at its core. CBSA has a policy and says these are the circumstances under which they will inspect devices and open them up and demand passwords. It sets the bar here according to their policy. I've

Information & Ethics committee  I'm happy to start. In the last number of years we've clearly have had a recognition from the Supreme Court of Canada of the very high value of privacy that is existent in these devices. They are at the very high end of the scale. You can get a search warrant to search a house,

Information & Ethics committee  I can only refer back to what he said, which would be a number of things that would lead them to suspect more, so something such as you're nervous, you seem evasive, those sorts of things. I think the connection of the Customs Act is if you bring something into Canada that is il

Information & Ethics committee  Certainly what it would take is that they would have to develop more than the multiplicities of indicators. They would have to have reasonable grounds to suspect that a crime—or it could be also a violation of the Customs Act—has been, is being, or is about to be committed, and t

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  There is no doubt that there would be a delay—there is no doubt about that—although judges are standing by 24–7 to do telewarrants across Canada.

Information & Ethics committee  Perhaps not.

Information & Ethics committee  I'm happy to comment on it, but not wearing my CBA hat. CBSA are the people who control the borders and who and what comes in, and CATSA are the people who scan people who get on planes to make sure they don't have bombs, knives, guns, and things like that. They don't really care

Information & Ethics committee  Overall in my experience, they're not consistent in applying the policy that they even have, and I've heard testimony of a CBSA officer who called it guidelines after justifying a search of a cellphone that was not placed into airplane mode. So we have a law, the Customs Act, th