Transport committee  Good morning, ladies and gentlemen members of the committee. My name is John McKenna, and I am the president and chief executive officer for the Air Transport Association of Canada. I am accompanied today by Mr. Mike Skrobica, our senior vice-president and CFO. The Air Transpor

Transport committee  We had supported the proposed amendments to Bill C-6 and C-7, which in fact included protection of that sort of information for all companies, and would have seen that protection regulated by law, and not by the good will of the companies involved. These bills both died on the Or

Transport committee  That would be closer to what I could probably achieve.

Transport committee  Specifically, no. We know these things are carried out.

Transport committee  Well, I would contest that. All I'm saying is that although there are regulated, scheduled inspections varying from one to three years, depending on the risk assessment of each company, unannounced inspections occur whenever Transport Canada decides they are needed.

Transport committee  I will commit to ask them. I don't think I will report back to you within two weeks, considering that we have about 180 members.

Transport committee  I will inquire among my members to give you that information, absolutely, as far as scheduled inspections and unscheduled inspections are concerned. I will give you that raw data with pleasure.

Transport committee  I didn't say that I had one. I'm saying that these things exist. The important inspections are the PVI. That requires a lot of time, a lot of preparation, and usually a team of inspectors come into your firm and can camp there for two to three days while they conduct all this s

Transport committee  Not as a team, but you've had inspectors drop in following up on things, yes.

Transport committee  Well, quite simply, an operator must make sure that those batteries are well-anchored and are perhaps located at a certain distance from certain sensitive equipment.

Transport committee  Did you refer to terminals? I did not understand the question.

Transport committee  I said that we should not transfer a system that applies to category 705 and expect that operators of categories 703 and 704 will implement the same system in their organization. The challenge is to develop a system that is appropriate to the size of these enterprises.

Transport committee  I understood that you wanted to establish a difference between categories 704 and 703.

Transport committee  It's not only so much the system, the system is how a company works day-to-day and that is the operations of the company. Sometimes a company will even self-report on incidents or there will be reports following from PVIs or whatever. That information, when it's disclosed to th

Transport committee  I would say that there are more flights, but the safety record is also improving. It would be useful to know in which segments of the air industry they get these numbers from, rather than just throwing out a number.