Transport committee  Yes, I got it.

Transport committee  Yes, people can be detained based on this information. That's the concern. They can be detained in foreign jails, and that's a concern.

Transport committee  Our position is there's a way in which a process of exemption should be curtailed, and you keep control over when and how you give the exemption. You should certainly have parliamentary oversight about which countries you're allowing the sharing to be with. You should also demand

Transport committee  Well, certainly I think part of the problem is that once they get into trouble, the process....

Transport committee  I don't have the numbers, because we don't know fully who is on the list and who is not on the list. But we can get you the numbers, because it's in litigation in the U.S., I think.

Transport committee  Yes. I take issue with this, because what we're looking at is an exemption from an existing law. PIPEDA exists. It has been passed by parliamentarians, and it recognizes that, indeed, there is value in protecting the privacy of Canadians. We didn't come here to say that you ha

Transport committee  My understanding is that one of the cornerstones of privacy protection in law is that the information can only be used for the purpose for which it was acquired. To the extent that an agency acquires information for its purposes, it cannot share it with other agencies, no matter

Transport committee  I love coming here. I think we're doing this for public service.

Transport committee  Indeed, what is interesting is that's one of the issues with the no-fly list in the U.S. Some people have been allowed to fly and they are not able to go home. Essentially--

Transport committee  That's part of the lawsuit that's in the States. There were at least 17, I think, who were in that context. What we're arguing for is a movement to better protect the privacy of Canadian passengers and passengers around the world. I think the idea of trying to raise the level of

Transport committee  The way the bill is framed now, it is completely at the discretion of the airline. So the exemption from PIPEDA is not given to a process by which somebody would apply for an exemption, it's completely discretionary.

Transport committee  I think that will be one issue. There will also be the issue of whether the bill, abilitating this, raises the liability under the charter, for example. That's unclear territory at this stage.

Transport committee  We are suggesting that amendments would go a long way towards preserving the privacy of Canadians and their ability to travel through the airspace. What we're reacting to here is a bit of extortion from the U.S. that says, “From now on, you cannot travel unless you comply with

Transport committee  Certainly.

Transport committee  Yes.